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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #120 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:24pm:

I think you are arguing against the possibility of a gay gene.

You're letting your fear overwhelm your reasoning.

Right wing idiots like to remind me we've proven there's no gay gene. They think it means you can't be born gay. They remember grade 9 science in 1957 and think it's still state of the art

There will be gene/epigene interaction with sex hormones that predisposes a child to same-sex attraction, I'm certain of that.

When that discovery is made, eugenics will be practised even more than it is today with the likes of Down's Syndrome or child-gender preference.

But it won't be the answer to all causes of homosexuality, I'd bet. Nurture will also play its part.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #121 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:41pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm: Why are most poofters left wing? You're not a homo are you? Homosexuality has nothing to do with trans. Wearing drag is also not the same as trans. Both trans folk, and gay folk, know how to act around kids. Unlike you, apparently
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #122 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:41pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

Another reminder

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #123 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:41pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:44am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

Who are you kidding?

It's your whole reason for being, a driving force behind every post you make.

The questions you pose you've posed countless times before.

You're a cracked record.

Just to point out:

Your first post on the topic, Has no content on the topic.

Is inflammatory ?

Has no point.

Does not add to the topic in any way and can have no positive outcome of any sort.

Simply seems to be fishing for the Future ?

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #124 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

There will be gene/epigene interaction with sex hormones that predisposes a child to same-sex attraction, I'm certain of that.

When that discovery is made, eugenics will be practised even more than it is today with the likes of Down's Syndrome or child-gender preference.

But it won't be the answer to all causes of homosexuality, I'd bet. Nurture will also play its part.

your fantasies have literally no bearing on science LOL!!!

It's not nurture. It's not genes. We know EXACTLY what it is. We can experimentally prove it

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #125 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:34pm:

But it IS sexual to the perv in drag and the tranny. They DO sexualise and groom kiddies and their environments. Why ELSE go to kiddies and schools and children's events?
And you are all for it, unsurprisingly, perversely.

you only believe this because you think this way. This is YOUR thought process, not theirs.

Drag story time is in public libraries, not schools. You have no clue what's going on.

I am amused you're so repressed and obsessed with sex, especially given we're looking at people with a penis

incorrect.

repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #126 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

Why are most poofters left wing?

You're not a homo are you? Embarrassed

Homosexuality has nothing to do with trans. Wearing drag is also not the same as trans. Both trans folk, and gay folk, know how to act around kids. Unlike you, apparently

A poofter can wear a dress and put 5 horns on their head
with plenty of makeup -
they are still a poofter. Roll Eyes

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #127 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

There will be gene/epigene interaction with sex hormones that predisposes a child to same-sex attraction, I'm certain of that.

When that discovery is made, eugenics will be practised even more than it is today with the likes of Down's Syndrome or child-gender preference.

But it won't be the answer to all causes of homosexuality, I'd bet. Nurture will also play its part.

your fantasies have literally no bearing on science LOL!!!

It's not nurture. It's not genes. We know EXACTLY what it is. We can experimentally prove it

Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58106 Here Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #128 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:45pm Yes there are people who are just born that way. Well over 90% of them and they mostly know it very early in life. I cannot say that there is no need for medical experts to diagnose it as well. I have no doubt that there is a small amount of abuse involved.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58106 Here Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #129 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm: Why are most poofters left wing? They are just as often if not more so right wing. In the USA the Republican states watch more gay porn by a large margin. This is fact. These on the right may be more tightly aligned with their closet but they are still homosexual.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #130 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:34pm:

But it IS sexual to the perv in drag and the tranny. They DO sexualise and groom kiddies and their environments. Why ELSE go to kiddies and schools and children's events?
And you are all for it, unsurprisingly, perversely.

you only believe this because you think this way. This is YOUR thought process, not theirs.

Drag story time is in public libraries, not schools. You have no clue what's going on.

I am amused you're so repressed and obsessed with sex, especially given we're looking at people with a penis

incorrect.

repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously

Dear Aqua,
kids need good role models like Ravishing Rick Rude -

Rick Rude,
"what I'd like to have right now is for all you fat,
out of shape Los Angeles losers -
keep the noise down while I take my robe off and
show the ladies what a real sexy man looks like -
hit the music."

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #131 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

Why are most poofters left wing?

You're not a homo are you? Embarrassed

Homosexuality has nothing to do with trans. Wearing drag is also not the same as trans. Both trans folk, and gay folk, know how to act around kids. Unlike you, apparently

A poofter can wear a dress and put 5 horns on their head
with plenty of makeup -
they are still a poofter. Roll Eyes

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=700,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/...

Do you know that there are born male Transsexuals who prefer sex with women ? They may be just as much lesbian as Poofters - NO ?

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #132 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously

We're not obsessed with trumps sex life. What nonsense.

Trump is not superior to my chickens. He is human garbage. The right obsess with sex. We just speak up for the people you hate

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #133 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:53pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm: A poofter can wear a dress and put 5 horns on their head with plenty of makeup - they are still a poofter. This person could be homosexual. But you have no way to know You just hope he is.
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #134 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:53pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 3:44pm: Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics? All babies start female, you knew that, yeah?
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