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Reply #135 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:54pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:51pm:
Do you know that there are born male Transsexuals who prefer sex with women ?  They may be just am much lesbian as Poofters - NO ?


Trans is not a sexuality.  Trans folks can be gay or straight
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Reply #136 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:55pm
 
he looks to be a strong powerful confident man bobby.

these are the emotions we want to model in front of kids , so that they dont develop anxiety

a blue haired lesbian teacher in therapy is not a good role model

could Rick Rude report to the education department please
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Reply #137 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:56pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 7:24am:
I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference.  I knew they'd obsess about sex.  Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts.  I've not started a post on this before.  But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans.  We know how this happens.  The biology is well understood.  While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness.  Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5.  Gender dysphoria is not being trans.  Not all trans people experience it.  they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age.  Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans.  Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'.  This does no harm.  No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure.  No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%.  Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment.  They become trans again later.  The rest realise they were gay. 

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them.  Our only option is if we are kind or not.  Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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Reply #138 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:57pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics?


All babies start female, you knew that, yeah?

The morphology is female. Genetic and epigenetic interactions with sex hormones then act on that genetically-determined morphology.
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Reply #139 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics?


All babies start female, you knew that, yeah?


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000330094644.htm
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Reply #140 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:57pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics?


All babies start female, you knew that, yeah?

The morphology is female. Genetic and epigenetic interactions with sex hormones then act on that genetically-determined morphology.


And if the flow is interupted, you get someone gay or trans
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Reply #141 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:38pm:
Why are most poofters left wing?



They are just as often if not more so right wing.

In the USA the Republican states watch more gay porn by a large margin. This is  fact.



No it's not.
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Reply #142 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:34pm:
But it IS sexual to the perv in drag and the tranny.  They DO sexualise and groom kiddies and their environments. Why ELSE go to kiddies and schools and children's events?
And you are all for it, unsurprisingly, perversely.



you only believe this because you think this way.  This is YOUR thought process, not theirs.

Drag story time is in public libraries, not schools.  You have no clue what's going on.

I am amused you're so repressed and obsessed with sex, especially given we're looking at people with a penis


incorrect.

repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously


I have not seen one word about Trumps sex with Melania or any of his wives except for the one who wrote in her book that Donald raped her.

All the comments about Trumps sex life have related to sexual assault that he was recorded bragging about and accused of by over 29 women or his cringe worthy comments about his daughter as a young teen especially and the paedophilia (rape) accusations from a then 13 year old girl and then their was his generously but corrupt paid out sex affairs with a porn star and a playboy model. 

No comments at all about any of Donald's legitimate sex.
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Reply #143 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:55pm:
he looks to be a strong powerful confident man bobby.

these are the emotions we want to model in front of kids , so that they dont develop anxiety

a blue haired lesbian teacher in therapy is not a good role model

could Rick Rude report to the education department please


You don't think it takes confidence to dress like the photo he keeps sharing?
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Reply #144 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:59pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:51pm:
Do you know that there are born male Transsexuals who prefer sex with women ?  They may be just am much lesbian as Poofters - NO ?


Trans is not a sexuality.  Trans folks can be gay or straight

Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #145 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:59pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:51pm:
Do you know that there are born male Transsexuals who prefer sex with women ?  They may be just am much lesbian as Poofters - NO ?


Trans is not a sexuality.  Trans folks can be gay or straight

Cheesy Cheesy



Still true.  Another fact no one can discuss
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Reply #146 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:03pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:57pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
Not nurture, not genes... metaphysics?


All babies start female, you knew that, yeah?

The morphology is female. Genetic and epigenetic interactions with sex hormones then act on that genetically-determined morphology.


And if the flow is interupted, you get someone gay or trans

Welcome to the world of epigenetic influence on genes.
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Reply #147 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:03pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:52pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously


We're not obsessed with trumps sex life.  What nonsense.

Trump is not superior to my chickens.  He is human garbage.  The right obsess with sex.  We just speak up for the people you hate


2 or 3 steps below most chickens.

Even the chickens KFC used to make devil wings.
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Reply #148 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:05pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Welcome to the world of epigenetic influence on genes.


HAHAHAA!! Nope.  Not even remotely
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Reply #149 - Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:07pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 4:03pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:52pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2022 at 3:44pm:
repressed and obsessed with sex is a leftie phenomenom.
look at how obsessed certain members are with trumps sex life.
i suppose they dont have their own active sex life to think about so they obsess on the superior mans and live vicariously


We're not obsessed with trumps sex life.  What nonsense.

Trump is not superior to my chickens.  He is human garbage.  The right obsess with sex.  We just speak up for the people you hate


2 or 3 steps below most chickens.

Even the chickens KFC use to make devil wings.



and yet he has been on the cover of playboy and has a series of hot women in his life.

the frustrated leftie thinks in his croc brain "if i tell myself, i'm better then trump, then i will get those babes as well"
the fact you dont reflects that this is mere fantasy
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