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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #300 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:50pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

If you call trying to abuse people into agreeing with you having morals and gratuitously calling people c~nts literacy.

I've never done that, I've merely shamed the right with facts

You did here. You even found a way to spell the word to get around the swear filter.

That was easy other people did it, I was merely the only one punished for it. Yeah, I get tired of hateful cowards running from facts

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11797 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #301 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:50pm Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:48pm: And there are languages where there is no gender even for he/she. Ah, Con the fruiterer! 'Pumpkins and how to cook her'.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #302 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:51pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

You would have been banned for they way you've carried on at this site.

The way I act now is a reflection on the violence the right have visited on me, and how I've been banned when I try to be polite to scum

Oh, a victim, look!!! Cry

So sad. Cruel world!!

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #303 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #304 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

If you call trying to abuse people into agreeing with you having morals and gratuitously calling people c~nts literacy.

I've never done that, I've merely shamed the right with facts

You did here. You even found a way to spell the word to get around the swear filter.

That was easy other people did it, I was merely the only one punished for it. Yeah, I get tired of hateful cowards running from facts

So you were lying when you said you've never done that.

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #305 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #306 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:53pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm: So you were lying when you said you've never done that. You didn't say I was rude. You said I abused people to force them to agree with me, lol
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #307 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:54pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

You would have been banned for they way you've carried on at this site.

The way I act now is a reflection on the violence the right have visited on me, and how I've been banned when I try to be polite to scum

Oh, a victim, look!!! Cry

So sad. Cruel world!!

No, I am winning. I crushed the right wing people threatening me, and I shame yuo all regularly

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #308 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:55pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

So you were lying when you said you've never done that.

You didn't say I was rude. You said I abused people to force them to agree with me, lol

I said calling people c~nts isn't a good example of your literacy. You're not that literate anyway; you're about average.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #309 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:57pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:55pm: I said calling people c~nts isn't a good example of your literacy. You're not that literate anyway; you're about average. HAHAHAAA!!! My God the right are ridiculous cowards
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #310 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

I said calling people c~nts isn't a good example of your literacy. You're not that literate anyway; you're about average.

HAHAHAAA!!! My God the right are ridiculous cowards

Thanks. Yes, I am right about you.

You're a tantrum-thrower of the effete kind.

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #311 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #312 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:04pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

You can't answer any of this

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #313 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

You would have been banned for they way you've carried on at this site.

The way I act now is a reflection on the violence the right have visited on me, and how I've been banned when I try to be polite to scum

Oh, a victim, look!!! Cry

So sad. Cruel world!!

No, I am winning. I crushed the right wing people threatening me, and I shame yuo all regularly

Shurely shome mishtake.....

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #314 - Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:11pm Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:08pm: Shurely shome mishtake..... How many times have you replied to reiterate that you refuse to discuss anything I've said?
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