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The truth about trans people (Read 111955 times)
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Reply #3585 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 3:12pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 2:56pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:50am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:28am:
DNA, very simple question for you.

Is Bethany Hamilton transphobic?

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-what-bethany-hamilton-say-surfer-em...



I don't know her.

It would seem unlikely that a trans athlete in these conditions would have any advantage. They are required to prove that they have held lower than male level testosterone for over a year prior to any event.

I see this as an area where more needs to be known and done but not a justification to denigrate the Trans community - just an excuse for doing so.

Sport is a different question, The typical Transsexual is not competitive in sport. It is a convenient angle of attack which does need to be addresses better than is currently the case.


You're irredeemably ideologically captured.

Trannies competing in women's sport has nothing to do with rights.


Who said that it did ? I do not see a good answer.

You're also irredeemably ideologically captured - this line about sport is just one plank in your fixation based bias against the trans community. You would have a leg to stand on if this sport related objection was the only line you have but it isn't you go right down the line on every facit.

For several people here It takes a great deal of unbalanced hate to be involved in a three and a half thousand post denigration of 0.0002% of the population with daily passionate anti trans rants about anything and everything.

I suspect you could do a few paragraphs on how terrible whatever trans people have for breakfast is.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3586 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 5:04pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:34am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Some of the boys have their daily trans bashing fix and are now feeling a lot better about themselves.


Post up the content that is bashing trans please.


This entire thread.

AND the half-dozen which preceded it.

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Reply #3587 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:34pm
 
The flaw about Homo-sexual couples is that one always tries to 'replicate' the opposite sex. 
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Reply #3588 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:05pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
The flaw about Homo-sexual couples is that one always tries to 'replicate' the opposite sex. 


Do they ?

I suspect you are wrong but surprised that you don't know from experience. I suspect their are a lot of variations but would be surprised if this one wasn't a very small minority.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3589 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:50am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:28am:
DNA, very simple question for you.

Is Bethany Hamilton transphobic?

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-what-bethany-hamilton-say-surfer-em...



I don't know her.

It would seem unlikely that a trans athlete in these conditions would have any advantage. They are required to prove that they have held lower than male level testosterone for over a year prior to any event.

I see this as an area where more needs to be known and done but not a justification to denigrate the Trans community - just an excuse for doing so.

Sport is a different question, The typical Transsexual is not competitive in sport. It is a convenient angle of attack which does need to be addresses better than is currently the case.


You don't have to know her ... that's an irrelevance.

The Trans agenda is denigrating womens sports.

The question you were asked was do you think Bethany Hamilton is transphobic because she has stated her case as to why she will no longer compete in competitions that allows biological males to compete against women.

And no amount of changing testosterone levels will ever make a adult male a woman.


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no amount of changing testosterone levels will ever make a adult male a woman


It does reduce competitive behaviour and reduces muscle and strength to female levels.

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You don't have to know her ... that's an irrelevance.


You asked 'Is Bethany Hamilton transphobic?' Knowing her would clearly assist. Based on the stories it is not possible to answer this. Based on the knowledge we have it is maybe - maybe not - who knows.

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The Trans agenda is denigrating womens sports.


I see no such desire from the trans community. I do see that there seem to be cases of unfairness, I suspect that even the trans community would like to see anomalies related to advantage in sport to be corrected.

Even within woman's sport it is normal for woman with naturally high testosterone levels to have a significant advantage. That can be women who are born more like men. This associates with Woman's sport being typically made up to a higher than the community average percentage of same sex preferring women.

That is women with high testosterone being more like males more competitive and preferring other women for sexual partners. Grin Grin Grin


First highlight ... that's BS you've seen Hannah Mouncey. 6ft 2 & still built like a brick shithouse.

Second highlight ... once again BS .... all you had to do was watch the video clip of her stating her case. Instead you gave a wishy washy vaguery.

As for the rest of that bs ... I think you need your head read.

You can't see because you're suffering woke blindness.

As for biological women who may have higher testosterone levels than other women ... so what?

They still have a vagina, cervix, uterus, fallopian tubes & ovaries. Their DNA is a biological female.

As to whether a percentage of those women are lesbian/homosexual is once again a total irrelevance.

Exactly what has their sexual preference got to do with them being biological females

or biological men playing in womens sport?
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3590 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:17pm
 
Kat wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 5:04pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:34am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Some of the boys have their daily trans bashing fix and are now feeling a lot better about themselves.


Post up the content that is bashing trans please.


This entire thread.

AND the half-dozen which preceded it.



You're just an idiot DH
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3591 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:19pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:05pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
The flaw about Homo-sexual couples is that one always tries to 'replicate' the opposite sex. 


Do they ?

I suspect you are wrong but surprised that you don't know from experience. I suspect their are a lot of variations but would be surprised if this one wasn't a very small minority.


It's not ... it's a very good  proportion.

But going by your previous input I'd say you wouldn't have a clue.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3592 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:24pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:19pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:05pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
The flaw about Homo-sexual couples is that one always tries to 'replicate' the opposite sex. 


Do they ?

I suspect you are wrong but surprised that you don't know from experience. I suspect their are a lot of variations but would be surprised if this one wasn't a very small minority.


It's not ... it's a very good  proportion.

But going by your previous input I'd say you wouldn't have a clue.


Correct - Being hetro I do not know a lot about this.

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It's not ... it's a very good  proportion.


Still doubt it but you sound certain enough to be talking from experience?
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Reply #3593 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:48pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:19pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:05pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
The flaw about Homo-sexual couples is that one always tries to 'replicate' the opposite sex. 


Do they ?

I suspect you are wrong but surprised that you don't know from experience. I suspect their are a lot of variations but would be surprised if this one wasn't a very small minority.


It's not ... it's a very good  proportion.

But going by your previous input I'd say you wouldn't have a clue.


Correct - Being hetro I do not know a lot about this.

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It's not ... it's a very good  proportion.


Still doubt it but you sound certain enough to be talking from experience?


I have seen countless numbers, in ordinary life & in celebrity life.

I don't know how old you are but it sounds like you've had a very sheltered life.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3594 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 6:48am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Kat wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 5:04pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:34am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Some of the boys have their daily trans bashing fix and are now feeling a lot better about themselves.


Post up the content that is bashing trans please.


This entire thread.

AND the half-dozen which preceded it.



You're just an idiot DH


For being correct?

Wake TF up!
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Reply #3595 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 7:00am
 
Kat wrote on Feb 10th, 2023 at 6:48am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Kat wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 5:04pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:34am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Some of the boys have their daily trans bashing fix and are now feeling a lot better about themselves.


Post up the content that is bashing trans please.


This entire thread.

AND the half-dozen which preceded it.



You're just an idiot DH


For being correct?

Wake TF up!


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For being correct?


In all fairness I have noticed that they consistently don't like that.

You will get along with them better if you try to not do that.

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Reply #3596 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 7:41am
 
A trans-identified male substitute teacher was banned from King Middle School in Portland, Maine after he shared his highly sexualised TikTok account intentionally with students. Lydia Lamere, also known as Chris Lamere, wrote his TikTok handle on the whiteboard at the front of the classroom and encouraged students to “check it out,” according to one student. 

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-teacher-removed-from-middle-school-aft...


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When not foisting his cross-dressing psychodrama on primary school kiddies and discussing “kink” and sexual positions, Mr Lamere tells us, “I’m not a predator, I’m just a woman who happens to be super tall and hot.”

So there. He's just a hot woman, then.

Korrect, Kat??




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Reply #3597 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 7:49am
 


Finland’s largest newspaper, the Helsingin Sanomat, recently published an interview with a professor of youth psychiatry who argues that children identifying as trans should not be encouraged by parents or doctors to change their gender.

Professor Riittakerttu Kaltiala, a research-practitioner who has treated minors with mental health issues for decades, argues that adolescence is a time when our identity undergoes construction. And the ultimate outcome of this construction will be unknown to parents and doctors, and even to individual children themselves.

For this reason, Kaltiala argues, children experimenting with gender identity should neither be affirmed nor denied. “Acceptance is saying that you are a boy who feels like you are a girl. It’s OK and you can be who you are and let’s see what happens when you grow up,” she told the newspaper.

The professor explained that when a behaviour is suppressed, the child’s emotional world is denied, whereas if a behaviour or identity is affirmed, then the body is denied. In both cases, the “child gets the message that there is something wrong with (them)”.

At the heart of Kaltiala’s message is the wisdom of acceptance, and the knowledge that cultivating it helps individuals to reach peace. This message is at the core of ancient traditions such as Stoicism, which teaches its followers to accept the world as it is, while trying to change only that which is in our control. The insights of the Stoics have persisted since the third century BC, so it is not surprising that competent psychologists and psychiatrists use a similar approach.

This is not the approach adopted by our public health system in Australia, however. Currently, across the country, there are five pediatric gender clinics offering what is called “gender affirmative care”. On the website for Melbourne’s Royal Children’s Hospital gender clinic, the Australian Standards of Care and Treatment Guidelines are advertised, which state clearly that medical practitioners must use “affirming language” and must not withhold gender affirmative treatment from minors who seek it out. If they do – according to these standards – they “may exacerbate distress” including “depression, anxiety and suicidality”.
Yet a growing international coalition of concerned researchers, psychiatrists, psychologists, parents, journalists and trans individuals themselves is pushing back against this one-size-fits-all model. Around the world there is growing awareness that this model of care may be iatrogenic – that is, it may result in medically induced harm. Puberty blockers are known to reduce bone density and the long-term impact on cognitive and neurological development is unknown. Taking cross-sex hormones is known to cause infertility.

The dominance of the affirmative care model rests on the claim that if gender dysphoric children are unable to access affirming treatment when they want it, they are more likely to commit suicide. But not everyone agrees. The claim that children who are not immediately affirmed will become suicidal is “purposeful disinformation that is irresponsible to spread”, according to Kaltiala. “Mentally healthy young people who experience their gender in a way that differs from their biological body are not automatically suicidal,” she says.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/acceptance-not-surgery-solution-to-t...

Put those scalpels away, you butchers.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #3598 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 9:04am
 
Kat wrote on Feb 10th, 2023 at 6:48am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Kat wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 5:04pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:34am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Some of the boys have their daily trans bashing fix and are now feeling a lot better about themselves.


Post up the content that is bashing trans please.


This entire thread.

AND the half-dozen which preceded it.



You're just an idiot DH


For being correct?

Wake TF up!



Since when? never happen as long as your arse points to the ground.
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Reply #3599 - Feb 10th, 2023 at 9:39am
 
Don't look. Perfect magazine with Sam Smith on the cover.

https://www.theperfectmagazine.com/
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