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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102926 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #450 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 6:34pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 4:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 4:22pm: FTLW, Are you a communist trying to sow discord in the West? Russia has not been communist since the 1990s I think you're a 5th column infiltrator.
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #451 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 7:51pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 4:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Or a lonely old bloke in a skirt.

Congrats. 30 pages of boomers being scared to answer me

Hard to get a word in edge-wise with somebody clearly manic and out of control.. I'm just waiting for the burnout to come in.

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #452 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:01pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #453 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:01pm .
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #456 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 6:34pm: I think you're a 5th column infiltrator. Most boomers think that's a real thing, yes
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #457 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:03pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 7:51pm: Hard to get a word in edge-wise with somebody clearly manic and out of control.. I'm just waiting for the burnout to come in. I am just replying to crying boomers. YOU are deciding the size of this thread, not me
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102926 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #458 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:18pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 6:34pm: I think you're a 5th column infiltrator. Most boomers think that's a real thing, yes Hi Folks , he's admitted it.
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #459 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:42pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:18pm: FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 6:34pm: I think you're a 5th column infiltrator. Most boomers think that's a real thing, yes Hi Folks , he's admitted it. HAHAHAA!! Did they even have school in the 1950s?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44487 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #460 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:11am Cancel Spanish, it's a transphobic, hate filled language
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #461 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:12am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:01pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44487 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #462 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:13am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:02pm: .
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44487 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #463 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:13am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:02pm: .
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44487 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #464 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:15am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:01pm: .
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