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FutureTheLeftWant

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #510 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 1:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 1:01pm:

It is all baseless, unsupported drivel. ALL untrue, fatuous crap that you make up.

Then prove it, and shut me down....

You'd just say that any contrary view - not matter how well-founded in research and conclusions drawn - was some form of 'right wing conspiracy'. Even a middle of the road conclusion that more research needs to be done is a savage and murderous right wing conspiracy to you......

Been done to death.. we all know you by now....AGFAL - All Good For A Laugh.... or is that OGFAL...

No drugs - no surgery - no gender blockers....

Let the people decide in a plebiscite. Cool

Learn to quote, Lefty - you mix things up, computer wizard. THAT is the correct quote.

LOL!! this fake HTML kind of sucks. I note you can't answer me

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83724 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #511 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:34pm Of course! All straight women want to get a Stikadictomy .. all straight men want to get a Kutemoff Anslotmy and/or some Adatitortwotomy. Silly me - how could I have missed that......
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #512 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:38pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

I knew when I joined a political group that the right would cry endlessly about basic human biology and biological difference. I knew they'd obsess about sex. Certain people here are obsessed with the contents of strangers trousers.

I've been accused of driving this discussion but I've merely responded to tears with facts. I've not started a post on this before. But given that telling the truth calmly gets me banned every few days, here in one place is every undeniable thing we know about trans folks

1 - we know people are born trans. We know how this happens. The biology is well understood. While there are gay creatures throughout the animal kingdom, we can't ask animals if they are trans, but the biology is fundamentally the same so, probably?

2 - We know being trans is not a mental illness. Idiots call gender dysphoria being trans because they worked out gender dysphoria is in DSM5. Gender dysphoria is not being trans. Not all trans people experience it. they are different things

3 - we know some people are sure they are trans, even from an early age. Their experience of how they feel about themselves cannot be denied, they insist it's true

4 - we know you can't talk people into being trans or out of being trans. Now, in a world where trans people are fully accepted and discussed, I do think more kids will toy with the idea for a brief period, because it's not just acceptable, kids flag themselves as gay or trans when what they mean is 'I am not a dumb bigot like the old folks'. This does no harm. No one gets any medication without a lot of therapy to be sure. No one gets surgery before they are 18.

5 - The actual level of people detransitioning right now is under 5%. Most of those, don't decide they are not trans, they decide not to pursue it because of parental harassment. They become trans again later. The rest realise they were gay.

All of this means that nature creates trans people, and we can't change that, or change them. Our only option is if we are kind or not. Why are right wing people so determined to be unkind, to children?

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #515 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:39pm .
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #516 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:39pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:34pm: Of course! All straight women want to get a Stikadictomy .. all straight men want to get a Kutemoff Anslotmy and/or some Adatitortwotomy. Silly me - how could I have missed that...... I am not even sure what you're crying about now?
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #517 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:39pm

Who said being Abnormal was 'wrong' or 'right'? Still Abnormal....

Gender diversity, innit? Calling it diversity means that all classifications are 'equal', no? Nothing 'good' or 'bad' about it, right? Like there's no stupid or smart in IQ diversity, right? All heights are equal no?

So why worry about a little term like Abnormal? It's only a word........

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #518 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:40pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Who said being Abnormal was 'wrong' or 'right'? Still Abnormal....

Gender diversity, innit? Calling it diversity means that all classifications are 'equal', no? Nothing 'good' or 'bad' about it, right? Like there's no stupid or smart in IQ diversity, right? All heights are equal no?

So why worry about a little term like Abnormal? It's only a word........

Well, it's a word that carries judgement. Abnormal is not always bad. It's abnormal to be rich. It's abnormal to be attractive. Etc

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83724 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #519 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:40pm .........rinse... repeat... rinse... repeat... keep repeating and some day somebody will believe it's all true.......
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83724 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #520 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:41pm .
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The truth about trans people Reply #523 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:42pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:41pm: . It's interesting, even telling the URL I want the next records does not seem to work..... This site software is a horror show
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #524 - Jul 15^th, 2022 at 4:44pm

" Trans people can be straight or gay. "

Of course! All straight women want to get a Stikadictomy .. all straight men want to get a Kutemoff Anslotmy and/or some Adatitortwotomy.

Silly me - how could I have missed that......

All right - even if a few do - surely that means they aren't straight.. why would a straight woman want a dick?

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