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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #975 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:45am
 
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Reply #976 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:43am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:41am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:50am:
It is so.
I don't hate them. I hate them pushing their fetish onto young kids.
And no, I wish they'd all f
u
ck off tbh.

Just look at how many regret their decisions after the fact.
That's psychological..... An encouraged fetish.
They need help, not encouragement.


You are simply human garbage

No one is pushing anything on kids
It's not a fetish
It's not sexual
you are a sex creep

What 'help' should they get, given there's no way to change their minds that they are trans?



How many of you share that fake id?


I love this retarded bullshit from you.  I note you can't answer the question so you continue with this fantasy.  I assume what you mean is, I am so smart, compared to you, that I must be the alamgam of five people?

My god your failed life is funny
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #977 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:50am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 10:24pm:
"About the author

David Zitner is a retired family physician, former Professor in the Dalhousie University Faculties of Medicine and Computer Science and the founding director of the graduate program in Health Informatics.  He has contributed to the boards and advisory committees of a several Canadian health organizations, including the Canadian Medical Association and accreditation Canada. He has chaired the quality, utilization and other committees of the Halifax Infirmary, a major Canadian teaching hospital.  He has published in the popular press and in peer reviewed medical journals and was co-author of the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies Fisher prize winning papers “Operating in the Dark” and “Public Health: State Secret.”"


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It's interesting that right wing people are SO STUPID they will reject the voices of the majority of experts, and scream about the expertise of the fringe voices they find who agree with their ignorance and hate.  In this complex world, some people have some medical training and are still ignorant bigots who hate trans people.  So what?
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #978 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:52am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 10:21pm:
"Second, transitions do not necessarily lead to better lives. Walt Heyer, a former transgender female wrote:

The reprieve I experienced through surgery was only temporary. Hidden underneath the makeup and female clothing was the little boy hurt by childhood trauma. I was once again experiencing gender dysphoria, but this time I felt like a male inside a body refashioned to look like a woman. I was living my dream, but still I was deeply suicidal. (Heyer 2019)

Imagine his resentment if his parents had encouraged doctors to do his transition before he had matured.

People considering transition should be asking tough questions about the proportion of people who benefit or are harmed from such transitions and medical practitioners have a professional duty to make their patients aware of these risks. Sadly, for youngsters such research has not been done, partly because the number of candidates for transition treatments is low and it is difficult to do an appropriate trial.

Curiously, outside the area of gender affirming care, physicians and regulators are themselves cautious and ambivalent about the use of even insignificant amounts of hormones to influence function and appearance.

Men wishing to take tiny amounts of anabolic steroids like testosterone to improve their appearance or athletic performance will have difficulty obtaining steroids from a doctor. Indeed, they might be forced to buy the drugs at their local gym or from a street vendor. The reason is that the medical establishment feels that even low doses of testosterone used for body sculpting might be harmful.

Women asking for estrogens are warned about the increased risk of some cancers and of cardiovascular disease.

The risk of harm from hormone therapy is the same whether the drug is obtained from street vendors, physicians, or pharmacists."


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Trans regret is under 5%.  Most 'regretters' do not regret thinking they are trans, they are still sure they are.  They regret coming out because of how they get treated.  No one gets any sort of trans support without asking for it.  Most trans people don't have surgery, kids are not allowed to have surgery (although I think rare cases exist in the USA, they do not here).  This stuff about hormone treatment is basically BS.  All of this is a concocted story made up by seeking people on the fringe of the trans experience, and pretending how they feel is common

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #979 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:54am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 10:17pm:
"Nor are hormones the only pharmaceutical intervention now raising concerns. The euphemistically named “puberty blockers” – more revealingly described by their correct name, “chemical castrators” – are available in Canada virtually on demand as soon as a minor indicates any interest in gender identity questions. These are not benign drugs but are associated with serious conditions such as early onset osteoporosis (Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine 2021a). Furthermore, since the use of these drugs as puberty blockers is an off-label use, it is important to understand that no proper clinical trials have been carried out on this use of these drugs. Claims that they are inoffensive and their effects perfectly reversible at any time are not borne out by the information we do have about their effects, especially on young people whose bodies are still in development.

Countries such as Sweden and Finland have recently abandoned uncritical gender-affirming care for minors. According to one Swedish account:

This is a watershed moment, with one of world’s most renowned hospitals calling the “Dutch Protocol” experimental and discontinuing its routine use outside of research settings. According to the ”Dutch Protocol,” which has gained popularity in recent years, gender-dysphoric minors are treated with puberty blockers at age 12 (and in some interpretations, upon reaching Tanner stage 2 of puberty, which in girls can occur at age 8), and cross-sex hormones at the age of 16. This approach, also known as medical “affirmation,” has been endorsed by the WPATH “Standards of Care 7” guideline. (Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine 2021b)."



Another comment, as Grappy masturbates about children

Puberty blockers are not castration in any way.  What a heap of crap.  They ARE very important for trans kids precisely because we deny them other options and particularly for trans women, not giving them causes puberty with it's masculinsing effects that have life long impact. 
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #980 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:54am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:55pm:
"The purposes of health care in general are to improve comfort, function, and life expectancy. And the purpose of mental health services is to influence feelings, thoughts, and behaviour.

What should people with gender dysphoria[1] consider when thinking about complex gender affirming[2] interventions?

First, gender affirming interventions pose immediate and continuing risk to life expectancy and function.

People who transition take supplemental hormones, estrogen or testosterone, which are not compatible with their biological sex. They are exposed to various risks including increased risks of breast cancer for men who take estrogens to transition to woman, and liver disease for men who transition to female. There is also evidence of temporary or even permanent sterility as a result of taking such hormones (National Health Service 2020).

Men who take estrogen for a male to female transition must also take other drugs, like spironolactone, to block the effect of testosterone. Spironolactone interferes with potassium metabolism and increases the risk of blood pressure and heart rate abnormalities, as well as muscle problems. Some transitioners choose to have their testicles removed to take lower doses of estrogen and avoid testosterone blockers. Not everyone responds to hormone disruptors in the same way. The absence of guiding research means it is not clear what measures clinicians should use to decide on the best dose or strategy for each person."


Is this ignorant tnuc STILL pretending gender dysphoria is the same as being trans?  Jesus
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #981 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:55am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:45am:
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Your mental illness literally thrills me.  I've also had right wing scum accuse me copy pasting responses because they don't think it's possible to type this fast.  The right are incompetent idiots

I will note the only reason I commented on Grappy's brain farts is to get past the glitch, which requires 6 replies now the thread is so long.  It WOULD be easier if you lied about trans kids on the new thread I created?
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #982 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:59am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:48am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:43am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:41am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:50am:
It is so.
I don't hate them. I hate them pushing their fetish onto young kids.
And no, I wish they'd all f
u
ck off tbh.

Just look at how many regret their decisions after the fact.
That's psychological..... An encouraged fetish.
They need help, not encouragement.


You are simply human garbage

No one is pushing anything on kids
It's not a fetish
It's not sexual
you are a sex creep

What 'help' should they get, given there's no way to change their minds that they are trans?



How many of you share that fake id?


I love this retarded bullshit from you.  I note you can't answer the question so you continue with this fantasy.  I assume what you mean is, I am so smart, compared to you, that I must be the alamgam of five people?

My god your failed life is funny


I'm actually very happy with (what you regard to be) my failed life. None of my kids are dysfunctional like you or your kids for starters and unlike you we're all tertiary educated AND employed. Oh and we all OWN our homes. In fact we've provided for our children and their children (once they arrive).

So 🖕
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Reply #983 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:04am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:59am:
I'm actually very happy with (what you regard to be) my failed life. None of my kids are dysfunctional like you or your kids for starters and unlike you we're all tertiary educated AND employed. Oh and we all OWN our homes. In fact we've provided for our children and their children (once they arrive).

So 🖕


I am pretty happy my kids are not right wing scum.  Their gender and/or sexuality don't matter to me at all.  I am not tertiary educated, but I think making $1000 a day means I did OK.  It's interesting that right wing scum measure success by money.  I know I have lots of it and can afford to take it for granted, but give me a good person over a rich person any day
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Reply #984 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:07am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:59am:
I'm actually very happy with (what you regard to be) my failed life. None of my kids are dysfunctional like you or your kids for starters and unlike you we're all tertiary educated AND employed. Oh and we all OWN our homes. In fact we've provided for our children and their children (once they arrive).

So 🖕


I am pretty happy my kids are not right wing scum.  Their gender and/or sexuality don't matter to me at all.  I am not tertiary educated, but I think making $1000 a day means I did OK.  It's interesting that right wing scum measure success by money.  I know I have lots of it and can afford to take it for granted, but give me a good person over a rich person any day


Translation : You have nothing. You will always have nothing. You are nothing. In fact you are less than nothing. And the tragic thing is this : no one cares 😂🤣😆
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Reply #985 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:09am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:07am:
Translation : You have nothing. You will always have nothing. You are nothing. In fact you are less than nothing. And the tragic thing is this : no one cares 😂🤣😆


To reiterate, I have about 5 times the average super, as well as rentals.  I earn in the top 5% of workers in Australia

NONE of that is why I am better than you
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Reply #986 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 10:34am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:07am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:59am:
I'm actually very happy with (what you regard to be) my failed life. None of my kids are dysfunctional like you or your kids for starters and unlike you we're all tertiary educated AND employed. Oh and we all OWN our homes. In fact we've provided for our children and their children (once they arrive).

So 🖕


I am pretty happy my kids are not right wing scum.  Their gender and/or sexuality don't matter to me at all.  I am not tertiary educated, but I think making $1000 a day means I did OK.  It's interesting that right wing scum measure success by money.  I know I have lots of it and can afford to take it for granted, but give me a good person over a rich person any day


Translation :
You have nothing. You will always have nothing. You are nothing. In fact you are less than nothing.
And the tragic thing is this : no one cares 😂🤣😆


And yet he's the one who knows what he's talking about.

Unlike the rest of you.
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Reply #987 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:17am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:45am:
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And a stupid one indeed.

There is only 1 but no option to give the correct answer, this makes it nothing but a troll poll
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Reply #988 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:38am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:55am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:45am:
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Your mental illness literally thrills me.  I've also had right wing scum accuse me copy pasting responses because they don't think it's possible to type this fast.  The right are incompetent idiots

I will note the only reason I commented on Grappy's brain farts is to get past the glitch, which requires 6 replies now the thread is so long.  It WOULD be easier if you lied about trans kids on the new thread I created?


Your mental illness literally thrills me.  People are hilarious about your fast typing while making no sense.  Garbage in = garbage out.   A laugh a minute, you are.

The glitch?  It's a well kept secret homed in Area 51.

All those non-trans people need is some head care.  They'll be right once they grow out of it.

When you phrase a strand the way you did the other one, it only deserves to be sh1t upon.  Growing up would help you.... loser!!

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Reply #989 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:38am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:59am:
I'm actually very happy with (what you regard to be) my failed life. None of my kids are dysfunctional like you or your kids for starters and unlike you we're all tertiary educated AND employed. Oh and we all OWN our homes. In fact we've provided for our children and their children (once they arrive).

So 🖕


I am pretty happy my kids are not right wing scum.  Their gender and/or sexuality don't matter to me at all.  I am not tertiary educated, but I think making $1000 a day means I did OK.  It's interesting that right wing scum measure success by money.  I know I have lots of it and can afford to take it for granted, but give me a good person over a rich person any day


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