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The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:38pm

I have been banned by Twitter, not time bans but life bans, not once, not twice, not three times, but four times.

VPNs and creative nomenclature can let you get back into any window.

What gets me it is always for a real, honest, opinion.

I think the West should consider trying to assassinate Putin.

I think cats are going to inherit the earth when, not if, when we humans go extinct.

I think country music is not a racist crime. I like it.

I think I like talking to people with opinions I disagree with but that challenge what I think I think.

Twitter will have none of that.

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #1 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:39pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:38pm:

I have been banned by Twitter, not time bans but life bans, not once, not twice, not three times, but four times.

VPNs and creative nomenclature can let you get back into any window.

What gets me it is always for a real, honest, opinion.

I think the West should consider trying to assassinate Putin.

I think cats are going to inherit the earth when, not if, when we humans go extinct.

I think country music is not a racist crime. I like it.

I think I like talking to people with opinions I disagree with but that challenge what I think I think.

Twitter will have none of that.

I've never bothered pushing my way back in. I got a life ban for being left wing. Your ideas on why you were banned are funny

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #2 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:44pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:38pm:

I have been banned by Twitter, not time bans but life bans, not once, not twice, not three times, but four times.

VPNs and creative nomenclature can let you get back into any window.

What gets me it is always for a real, honest, opinion.

I think the West should consider trying to assassinate Putin.

I think cats are going to inherit the earth when, not if, when we humans go extinct.

I think country music is not a racist crime. I like it.

I think I like talking to people with opinions I disagree with but that challenge what I think I think.

Twitter will have none of that.

I've never bothered pushing my way back in. I got a life ban for being left wing. Your ideas on why you were banned are funny

It is interesting, I do not get life bans on Facebook, only month long bans.

Usually for going on Fox News comment sections and telling Americans how fat and stupid they are.

They do not like that for strange some reason I will never fathom?

I do not get it, I grew up there. Live David Attenborough I am just describing nature as I see it, not condemning it.

I like hippos, they are fat and violent.

Just using my First Amendment rights.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1480 Perth WA Gender:	Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter. Reply #3 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:52pm The thing I loved most about Twitter is you can debate, talk to, insult and be insulted by the famous. Twitter is a place for fame whores. But my pimp cut me loose.
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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #4 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

It is interesting, I do not get life bans on Facebook, only month long bans.

Usually for going on Fox News comment sections and telling Americans how fat and stupid they are.

They do not like that for strange some reason I will never fathom?

I do not get it, I grew up there. Live David Attenborough I am just describing nature as I see it, not condemning it.

I like hippos, they are fat and violent.

Just using my First Amendment rights.

Same, I am usually on a FB ban for not hating women

No one has a first amendment right on a private platform

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #5 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:06pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

It is interesting, I do not get life bans on Facebook, only month long bans.

Usually for going on Fox News comment sections and telling Americans how fat and stupid they are.

They do not like that for strange some reason I will never fathom?

I do not get it, I grew up there. Live David Attenborough I am just describing nature as I see it, not condemning it.

I like hippos, they are fat and violent.

Just using my First Amendment rights.

Same, I am usually on a FB ban for not hating women

No one has a first amendment right on a private platform

True, from a literalist constitutional point of view the First Amendment only applies to government censorship.

I am more of a Christopher Hitchens kind of man and think it should be expanded to serve the entire human civilisation.

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #6 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:10pm

So for instance social media embrace section 230 protection they are not publishers, so not liable as publishers are for the content they publish.

Fair enough, you have declared yourself a public square, space, common for speech.

You do not endorse it or own it. You just facilitated it and make a pretty penny selling advertising on the back of it.

Therefore you must allow the freedom of all human speech that does not conspire or organise direct crime.

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #7 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:17pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:06pm:

True, from a literalist constitutional point of view the First Amendment only applies to government censorship.

I am more of a Christopher Hitchens kind of man and think it should be expanded to serve the entire human civilisation.

So you like the idea of big government?

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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #8 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:17pm:

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:06pm:

True, from a literalist constitutional point of view the First Amendment only applies to government censorship.

I am more of a Christopher Hitchens kind of man and think it should be expanded to serve the entire human civilisation.

So you like the idea of big government?

To the contrary human freedom.

If you are going to ideologically edit you are a publisher, not a public forum.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1480 Perth WA Gender:	Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter. Reply #9 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:32pm For the dangers of human intolerance do not only come from the state, but from religious or powerful commercial entities that believe they too can engineer the human condition, and have the wisdom to preside over the human conversation. That belief is the most deluded of all human maladies.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106621 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter. Reply #10 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:37pm I got a warning from YouTube for saying that - Putin should be hanged for war crimes. My message was deleted.
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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #11 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

I got a warning from YouTube for saying that -
Putin should be hanged for war crimes.
My message was deleted.

This is what I am talking about.

The man is trying to wipe out an entire nation state, yet saying maybe ending his life could save tens of thousands of lives, both Ukrainian and Russian, is an insult to humanity.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1480 Perth WA Gender:	Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter. Reply #12 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:46pm As a Time Lord if I could strangle baby Hitler, Stalin or Mao with a burning violin I would.
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter. Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:48pm Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:30pm: To the contrary human freedom. If you are going to ideologically edit you are a publisher, not a public forum. How do you police companies, without government?
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Re: The Grand Inquisitors of Twitter.
Reply #14 - Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:48pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

I got a warning from YouTube for saying that -
Putin should be hanged for war crimes.
My message was deleted.

This is what I am talking about.

The man is trying to wipe out an entire nation state, yet saying maybe ending his life could save tens of thousands of lives, both Ukrainian and Russian, is an insult to humanity.

Putin is trash. Ukraine IS full of Nazis. It's complex

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