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Reply #105 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:03am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:19pm:

Let me add to that - trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant, and never even had the potential to become capable from birth. A woman missing a part or not having all parts operational is still a woman... a trans woman is a trans woman and should be content with what they have chosen to be instead of kicking up a ruckus about it and blaming everyone else.

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trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant

Something they have in common with up to 60% of other women.

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #106 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:07am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:01am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 9:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 7:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 7:02pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 6:26pm:

People with the capacity for pregnancy are women - a trans woman can never be a woman... be content with what you choose to be... nobody's forcing you to it...

What about a trans man ?

You mean a woman who pretends to be a man?

No.

So what trans man has ever successfully become a Man? Forever lost somewhere in the wilderness between woman and man is not the same and never will be... same with trans women ... forever lost between man and woman and never reaching the end................

That's why they are trans men and women and not men and women. No trans man will ever impregnate a woman, and no trans woman will ever become pregnant.

They should just be happy with their own choices...........men do not get pregnant.

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has ever successfully become a Man?

Some of the people here who think they are men have the same problem ? It isn't abnormal.

At least you retain your civility and humour....

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Reply #107 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:08am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:03am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:19pm:

Let me add to that - trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant, and never even had the potential to become capable from birth. A woman missing a part or not having all parts operational is still a woman... a trans woman is a trans woman and should be content with what they have chosen to be instead of kicking up a ruckus about it and blaming everyone else.

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trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant

Something they have in common with up to 60% of other women.

No relevance - these are women through and through - trans women are not and never can be.

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #108 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:26am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 7:00pm:

2 genders.
Male and Female.

All the other "names" are made up delusions supported by delusional left-wing nutters who hate the society that gave them breath...

Firstly, you're confusing "gender" with "sex"; two entirely different things.

Based on the sole criterion of production of reproductive cells, there are two,
and only two sexes: the female sex, capable of producing ovules, and the
male sex, which produces spermatozoa.

Gender is a social construct that's defined as an internal sense of self, and has
nothing to do with sex per se. There are multiple definitions of "transgender".

And there is no viable evidence supporting your claim that transgender persons
are "delusional", mentally defective or even left-wing.

According to Pew Research, 57% of Republicans say society has gone too far in
acknowledging transgenderism, while only 12% of Democrats say that. This
indicates—yet again—how many Republicans are still living in a 1950s black and
white television era.

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #109 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 6:35am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:08am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 12:03am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:19pm:

Let me add to that - trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant, and never even had the potential to become capable from birth. A woman missing a part or not having all parts operational is still a woman... a trans woman is a trans woman and should be content with what they have chosen to be instead of kicking up a ruckus about it and blaming everyone else.

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trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant

Something they have in common with up to 60% of other women.

No relevance - these are women through and through - trans women are not and never can be.

Geoff has told you the truth. But you won't accept it because you're obsessed with the sex parts of strangers. creep

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #110 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 7:00pm:

2 genders.
Male and Female.

All the other "names" are made up delusions supported by delusional left-wing nutters who hate the society that gave them breath...

Firstly, you're confusing "gender" with "sex"; two entirely different things.

Based on the sole criterion of production of reproductive cells, there are two,
and only two sexes: the female sex, capable of producing ovules, and the
male sex, which produces spermatozoa.

Gender is a social construct that's defined as an internal sense of self, and has
nothing to do with sex per se. There are multiple definitions of "transgender".

And there is no viable evidence supporting your claim that transgender persons
are "delusional", mentally defective or even left-wing.

According to Pew Research, 57% of Republicans say society has gone too far in
acknowledging transgenderism, while only 12% of Democrats say that. This
indicates—yet again—how many Republicans are still living in a 1950s black and
white television era.

Arrant nonsense.

Of course gender dysphoria is a sexual aberration. Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else. Not to height, not to taste in cake, not musical ability- only sexuality.

It is readily acknowledged that there are some people who have an abnormal or distorted view of their sexuality. What is rejected is that all these aberrations are normal and as valid as being a well-adjusted male or female. What is absolutely rejected and abhorred is the surgical and medical violence done to healthy bodies in order to appease blighted minds.

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #111 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:27am

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Arrant nonsense.

Of course gender dysphoria is a sexual aberration. Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else. Not to height, not to taste in cake, not musical ability- only sexuality.

It is readily acknowledged that there are some people who have an abnormal or distorted view of their sexuality. What is rejected is that all these aberrations are normal and as valid as being a well-adjusted male or female. What is absolutely rejected and abhorred is the surgical and medical violence done to healthy bodies in order to appease blighted minds.

I won't bother correcting all this BS, I have so many times before

I will just note that elderly right wing scum sure love to cry about strangers genitals.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Reply #112 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am: Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else crap
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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #113 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:43am

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else

crap

Everything is about sex, to people obsessed with sex. 'invented genders' are nuanced. They are not about sex, they are not even sex, they are gender. Trans people are male and female, when boomers drag in 'invented genders' to that discussion they merely advertise their ignorance

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 48085 Gender:	Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Reply #114 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:51am John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am: Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else crap Gissan example then, two planks. Go on.
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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #115 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:54am

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else

crap

Gissan example then, two planks. Go on.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/style/lgbtq-gender-language.html

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #116 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:55am

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:54am:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else

crap

Gissan example then, two planks. Go on.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/style/lgbtq-gender-language.html

I can't read that, what does it say that you think supports your BS?

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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #117 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 10:09am

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else

crap

Gissan example then, two planks. Go on.

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1. In traditional Samoan culture, boys born into male bodies who identify as female are known as ‘Fa’afafines’. They are fully accepted into the Samoan culture. Fa’afafines’ roles in society move fluidly between the traditional male and female. While they’re assigned male at birth, Samoa also recognises ‘Fa’afatamas’—an equally fluid gender for those assigned female at birth.

“Gender roles, even sexual desire, are shaped to suit society. That means gender identity is often hugely shaped by culture. Being a woman in Samoa is quite different from being a woman in Western society,” explained a woman in a National Geographic video on sexual identity in Samoan culture.

In Samoan culture, gender identity is as simple as it gets—if you say and feel you are neither male or female, or that you fluctuate between both genders, this will simply be accepted by society. This is a social norm that the rest of the world could really learn from.

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2. Bugis in Indonesia
This ethnic group has seen gender as a spectrum for centuries now, with three additional genders in addition to male and female. Bugis genders include ‘calabai’ (feminine men), ‘calalai’ (masculine women) and intersex ‘bissu’ priests.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85381 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Reply #118 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 10:10am Invented Genders sounds good...
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Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy
Reply #119 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 10:11am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 10:10am:

Invented Genders sounds good...

Gender is a complex topic, more complex than sex. People are inventing genders to explain how they experience gender. This is an intermediate stage, in time we will simply accept everyones right to be who they are without needing labels

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