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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #105 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:15am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

If animal behaviour has nothing to do with it, then why raise it as an argument for the same in humans?

It is not normative behaviour with animals, that are usually primed sexually by pheromones to copulate. That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces. It's not an argument in itself for the same human behaviour.

You are thicker than pig poo. Being super smart, very attractive or very muscular are not normative for humans. Most people are not these things. Are these things then bad? Do we need to stamp them out?

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #106 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:14am: Sorry? "Advocating for non-normative behaviour"? Are you for real? Right wing people are fundamentally morons. They want society to be highly controlled and homogenised, so they don't have to negotiate the complexity of difference
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Reply #107 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

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That animals practise homosexuality is no more of an argument that humans should also,

The argument was not that animals having homosexual sex means humans should. Your argument was that it was not 'normal. That is is present throughout the animal kingdom is evidence that it is in fact normal.

I've never heard anyone say they should have gay sex because animals do it. You're getting twisted up in yous desperation to prove yourself right

If animal behaviour has nothing to do with it, then why raise it as an argument for the same in humans?

It is not normative behaviour with animals, that are usually primed sexually by pheromones to copulate. That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces. It's not an argument in itself for the same human behaviour.

I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #108 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:17am mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am: I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces. Obviously, most animals do not have thumbs
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49449 At my desk.	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #109 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:18am Fish literally poo on each other's faces. All the time. Who knows what they would do if they had hands.
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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #110 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:19am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

[quote author=FutureTheLeftWant link=1657863274/84#84 date=1658018345][qu

That animals practise homosexuality is no more of an argument that humans should also,

The argument was not that animals having homosexual sex means humans should. Your argument was that it was not 'normal. That is is present throughout the animal kingdom is evidence that it is in fact normal.

I've never heard anyone say they should have gay sex because animals do it. You're getting twisted up in yous desperation to prove yourself right

He's moving the goals because he can't answer. I didn't say they SHOULD. I said it's normal for some to WANT TO

But you can't separate that from other animal behaviour other than to use it to advocate for your agenda. Which animals practise homosexuality? For example, if two males are bonded (as often happens with lions and even interspecies bonding i.e. pet mae cats and dogs) are they sexually active?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13361 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #111 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am: I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces. Why would you argue that? Have you been out in the field observing male to male animal bonding? Or does it suit your agenda also?
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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #112 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

[quote author=FutureTheLeftWant link=1657863274/84#84 date=1658018345][qu

That animals practise homosexuality is no more of an argument that humans should also,

The argument was not that animals having homosexual sex means humans should. Your argument was that it was not 'normal. That is is present throughout the animal kingdom is evidence that it is in fact normal.

I've never heard anyone say they should have gay sex because animals do it. You're getting twisted up in yous desperation to prove yourself right

If animal behaviour has nothing to do with it, then why raise it as an argument for the same in humans?

It is not normative behaviour with animals, that are usually primed sexually by pheromones to copulate. That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces. It's not an argument in itself for the same human behaviour.

you keep trying to move the goal posts

It is very much normal behaviour in animals. As to what you call usual, and not usual is subjective. I've had over 10 dogs over the years and I don't recall one male dog that didn't at some stage try to hump another male dog. I'm not sure how you'd tell with female dogs unless you count licking the other dogs crotch. Since thats something all dogs do I'm not inclined to put it down to homosexual behavior, I think thats more to do with dogs tasting each others scent.

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #113 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:23am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am:

I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces.

Why would you argue that? Have you been out in the field observing male to male animal bonding? Or does it suit your agenda also?

Well i grew up around horses, dogs and cats ... never saw any of them fling their faeces.

But more viscerally, i know it because throughout the course of my life, i've not only been educated by the wider community as to same sex relations, i've had friends who are same sex attracted. I myself have been same sex attracted.

All perfectly normal, thanks.

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Reply #114 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:24am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am:

I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces.

Why would you argue that? Have you been out in the field observing male to male animal bonding? Or does it suit your agenda also?

Books are a foreign concept to you, aren't they?

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Reply #115 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:25am

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:23am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:16am:

I would argue that the incidence of homosexual relations in the animal kingdom are far more prevalent than the flinging of faeces.

Why would you argue that? Have you been out in the field observing male to male animal bonding? Or does it suit your agenda also?

I know it because throughout the course of my life, i've not only been educated by the wider community as to same sex relations, i've had friends who are same sex attracted. I myself have been same sex attracted.

All perfectly normal, thanks.

Well, girls are awesome, let's face it.....

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #116 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:25am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces.

most animals mark their territory. Flinging faeces is only one method. Even then, you wouldn't say flinging faeces is abnormal. No more abnormal than building fences is throughout the animal kingdom.

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Reply #117 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:26am

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

[quote author=FutureTheLeftWant link=1657863274/84#84 date=1658018345][qu

That animals practise homosexuality is no more of an argument that humans should also,

The argument was not that animals having homosexual sex means humans should. Your argument was that it was not 'normal. That is is present throughout the animal kingdom is evidence that it is in fact normal.

I've never heard anyone say they should have gay sex because animals do it. You're getting twisted up in yous desperation to prove yourself right

If animal behaviour has nothing to do with it, then why raise it as an argument for the same in humans?

It is not normative behaviour with animals, that are usually primed sexually by pheromones to copulate. That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces. It's not an argument in itself for the same human behaviour.

you keep trying to move the goal posts

It is very much normal behaviour in animals. As to what you can usual, and not usual is subjective. I've had over 10 dogs over the years and I don't recall one male dog that didn't at some stage try to hump another male dog. I'm not sure how you'd tell with female dogs unless you count licking the other dogs crotch. Since thats something all dogs do I'm not inclined to put it down to homosexual behavior, I think thats more to do with dogs tasting each others scent.

I'm guessing your dogs don't live free like wolves and the females are locked away from the males despite their pheromones driving the male dogs to insanity. Not exactly a natural animal environment.

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Reply #118 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:26am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

[quote author=FutureTheLeftWant link=1657863274/84#84 date=1658018345][qu

That animals practise homosexuality is no more of an argument that humans should also,

The argument was not that animals having homosexual sex means humans should. Your argument was that it was not 'normal. That is is present throughout the animal kingdom is evidence that it is in fact normal.

I've never heard anyone say they should have gay sex because animals do it. You're getting twisted up in yous desperation to prove yourself right

If animal behaviour has nothing to do with it, then why raise it as an argument for the same in humans?

It is not normative behaviour with animals, that are usually primed sexually by pheromones to copulate. That sometimes apparent homosexuality occurs within animal species may be true as is flinging their faeces. It's not an argument in itself for the same human behaviour.

you keep trying to move the goal posts

It is very much normal behaviour in animals. As to what you can usual, and not usual is subjective. I've had over 10 dogs over the years and I don't recall one male dog that didn't at some stage try to hump another male dog. I'm not sure how you'd tell with female dogs unless you count licking the other dogs crotch. Since thats something all dogs do I'm not inclined to put it down to homosexual behavior, I think thats more to do with dogs tasting each others scent.

I'm guessing your dogs don't live free like wolves and the females are locked away from the males despite their pheromones driving the male dogs to insanity. Not exactly a natural animal environment.

some were free to roam, others not. It's irrelevant. You're just making excuses now. That a male dog would hump a female when she's on heat does not negate the fact that at other times, the same male dog will try to hump other males. There is nothing abnormal in that

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #119 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:31am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:26am: I'm guessing your dogs don't live free like wolves and the females are locked away from the males despite their pheromones driving the male dogs to insanity. Not exactly a natural animal environment. You think only DOMESTICATED animals have gay sex? Read a book for once
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