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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #480 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:53pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:33pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:26pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:25pm:

Yeah - but mothra doesn't see it that way... just normal where she comes from - like Lefty - that kind of talk and houso fantasy is normal where he comes from ..... pay them no mind... everybody else just uses them for punchlines... the best straight guys in the business for a good laugh....

You are my favourite angry right wing old man crying at society changing. You really are

crappler just loves playing the victim Grin

Told you you were good for a laugh....

Grin

so at least twice as good as you then. Anything else?

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Reply #481 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:54pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 6:43pm:

Try to compliment your neighbour by telling him his lawns aren't natural because he created them.

It is not the way 'natural' is used in a sentence.

If you said that it is immoral to sh!t on your neighnours lawn, you'd be on the money. But you know that already.

My neighbour would be the first to tell you that his lawn was not natural and took a lot of work to create and then maintain.

Lefty sh1ts on neighbour's lawns now? WTF is that all about? It's natural to sh1t - look at the Indians on beaches at low tide leaving it for the high tide to wash inland..... but only a total lunatic sh1ts on a neighbour's lawn... morality doesn't enter into discussion of lunatics.............

... pity him afterwards .......

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #482 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

so now you're going to ignore even the dictionary definition, and make up your own by pretending you know what people mean?

I'm not ignoring the dictionary definition. Dictionary definitions are necessarily brief. Natural, as in arising from nature, includes everything if natural is used in the context of cosmos. The dictionary definition does not rule that out. That's why the concept of supernatural exists - arising from beyond the natural universe.

I know when people say something like 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not natural', the speaker is likely saying that 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not moral'.

You ARE ignoring the dictionary definition and pretending it means something else just because that's what you want it to mean.

And saying that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not 'natural' does NOT means that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not MORAL. Moral means one thing, natural another. Don't assume that just because you don't know what they mean that others don't.

Wold shitting on a neihbour's lawn be immoral because it would indicate a gross disrespect for and a deep insult to the neighbour?

Is showing flagrant (and undeserved) disrespect to a neighbour not immoral?

Would it not be breaking the moral golden rule?

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #483 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:57pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 6:43pm:

Try to compliment your neighbour by telling him his lawns aren't natural because he created them.

It is not the way 'natural' is used in a sentence.

If you said that it is immoral to sh!t on your neighnours lawn, you'd be on the money. But you know that already.

My neighbour would be the first to tell you that his lawn was not natural and took a lot of work to create and then maintain.

Lefty sh1ts on neighbour's lawns now? WTF is that all about? It's natural to sh1t - look at the Indians on beaches at low tide leaving it for the high tide to wash inland..... but only a total lunatic sh1ts on a neighbour's lawn... morality doesn't enter into discussion of lunatics.............

... pity him afterwards .......

You are garbage. I pity you

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #484 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:59pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 6:43pm:

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Lawns aren't natural because people created them?

Try to compliment your neighbour by telling him his lawns aren't natural because he created them.

It is not the way 'natural' is used in a sentence.

you're the one who put it in that sentence to start with Roll Eyes

Yes. To put into sharp relief the question 'what do you mean by natural?'

It's a common problem when people inject terms that are essentially referring to moralities and are trying to convert an ought to an is without realising they are doing it.

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Reply #485 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

It's a common problem when people inject terms that are essentially referring to moralities and are trying to convert an ought to an is without realising they are doing it.

no, it's a common problem when people don't like the definition of a word want to pretend it means something else.

Why do you assume I mean moral when I say natural? I've given you the definition of natural so obviously I know what it means. And yet still you pretend I mean something else. You're in denial. You need to stop pretending.

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Reply #486 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

so now you're going to ignore even the dictionary definition, and make up your own by pretending you know what people mean?

I'm not ignoring the dictionary definition. Dictionary definitions are necessarily brief. Natural, as in arising from nature, includes everything if natural is used in the context of cosmos. The dictionary definition does not rule that out. That's why the concept of supernatural exists - arising from beyond the natural universe.

I know when people say something like 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not natural', the speaker is likely saying that 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not moral'.

You ARE ignoring the dictionary definition and pretending it means something else just because that's what you want it to mean.

And saying that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not 'natural' does NOT means that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not MORAL. Moral means one thing, natural another. Don't assume that just because you don't know what they mean that others don't.

Wold shitting on a neihbour's lawn be immoral because it would indicate a gross disrespect for and a deep insult to the neighbour?

Is showing flagrant (and undeserved) disrespect to a neighbour not immoral?

Would it not be breaking the moral golden rule?

more deflections .... I don't know why you are persisting with this STUPID analogy

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #487 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

It's a common problem when people inject terms that are essentially referring to moralities and are trying to convert an ought to an is without realising they are doing it.

no, it's a common problem when people don't like the definition of a word and then pretend it means something else.

Why do you assume I mean moral when I say natural? I've given you the definition of natural so obviously I know what it means. And yet still you pretend I mean something else. You're in denial. You need to stop pretending.

Your original definition led to the contradiction that 'natural' excluded shitting in a toilet and on a lawn.

Where is shitting natural?

Have you ever had to define your terms?

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Reply #488 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:10pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

so now you're going to ignore even the dictionary definition, and make up your own by pretending you know what people mean?

I'm not ignoring the dictionary definition. Dictionary definitions are necessarily brief. Natural, as in arising from nature, includes everything if natural is used in the context of cosmos. The dictionary definition does not rule that out. That's why the concept of supernatural exists - arising from beyond the natural universe.

I know when people say something like 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not natural', the speaker is likely saying that 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not moral'.

You ARE ignoring the dictionary definition and pretending it means something else just because that's what you want it to mean.

And saying that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not 'natural' does NOT means that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not MORAL. Moral means one thing, natural another. Don't assume that just because you don't know what they mean that others don't.

Wold shitting on a neihbour's lawn be immoral because it would indicate a gross disrespect for and a deep insult to the neighbour?

Is showing flagrant (and undeserved) disrespect to a neighbour not immoral?

Would it not be breaking the moral golden rule?

more deflections .... I don't know why you are persisting with this STUPID analogy

You've never thought to define the terms you use, have you.

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #489 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

It's a common problem when people inject terms that are essentially referring to moralities and are trying to convert an ought to an is without realising they are doing it.

no, it's a common problem when people don't like the definition of a word and then pretend it means something else.

Why do you assume I mean moral when I say natural? I've given you the definition of natural so obviously I know what it means. And yet still you pretend I mean something else. You're in denial. You need to stop pretending.

Your original definition led to the contradiction that natural' excluded shitting in a toilet and on a lawn.

Have you ever had to define your terms?

my original definition did nothing of the sort. Your grasping at straws again. it's really quite easy
Lawns NOT NATURAL.
Shitting NATURAL.

What part of that do you struggle with?

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Reply #490 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

so now you're going to ignore even the dictionary definition, and make up your own by pretending you know what people mean?

I'm not ignoring the dictionary definition. Dictionary definitions are necessarily brief. Natural, as in arising from nature, includes everything if natural is used in the context of cosmos. The dictionary definition does not rule that out. That's why the concept of supernatural exists - arising from beyond the natural universe.

I know when people say something like 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not natural', the speaker is likely saying that 'shitting on the neighbour's lawn is not moral'.

You ARE ignoring the dictionary definition and pretending it means something else just because that's what you want it to mean.

And saying that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not 'natural' does NOT means that shitting on the neighbours lawn is not MORAL. Moral means one thing, natural another. Don't assume that just because you don't know what they mean that others don't.

Wold shitting on a neihbour's lawn be immoral because it would indicate a gross disrespect for and a deep insult to the neighbour?

Is showing flagrant (and undeserved) disrespect to a neighbour not immoral?

Would it not be breaking the moral golden rule?

more deflections .... I don't know why you are persisting with this STUPID analogy

You've never thought to define the terms you use, have you.

I'm not arrogant enough to argue that the dictionary is wrong and I know better

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106964 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #491 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:13pm I hope FD deletes this thread as anyone just turning up would think the whole place is full of Vegemite drillers. It's disgusting and it brings this site into disrepute.
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Reply #492 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

It's a common problem when people inject terms that are essentially referring to moralities and are trying to convert an ought to an is without realising they are doing it.

no, it's a common problem when people don't like the definition of a word and then pretend it means something else.

Why do you assume I mean moral when I say natural? I've given you the definition of natural so obviously I know what it means. And yet still you pretend I mean something else. You're in denial. You need to stop pretending.

Your original definition led to the contradiction that natural' excluded shitting in a toilet and on a lawn.

Have you ever had to define your terms?

my original definition did nothing of the sort. Your grasping at straws again. it's really quite easy
Lawns NOT NATURAL.
Shitting NATURAL.

What part of that do you struggle with?

That shitting on a lawn is natural. Dogs do it; kids would do it, if they weren't socialised out of it.

And why are kids socialised out of it? Because it is disrespectful and insulting to the neighbour. Those are moral proscriptions.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #493 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:17pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:13pm: I hope FD deletes this thread as anyone just turning up would think the whole place is full of Vegemite drillers. It's disgusting and it brings this site into disrepute. Only in your homoerotic thoughts, B00bby.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13355 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #494 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:18pm John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:12pm: I'm not arrogant enough to argue that the dictionary is wrong and I know better Dictionaries aren't divine codices. They're necessarily brief. They're your 'starters for ten', not the final word on any definition.
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