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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #570 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:59pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:04pm:

So, now there's a difference between unnatural (toilet) and unnatural (lawn) and weakens the argument that lawn shitting is unnatural relative to toilet shitting.

WTF are you on about now. They're BOTH unnatural because they're both man made constructs. You're really getting desperate with this crap

You're not up with this.

By your definition, sex in a bed is unnatural. Shitting in a toilet is unnatural. Wheren do you bugger and sh!t that would satisfy your sense of what is natural? In a tree having made a nest?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #571 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:59pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:22pm: Because escalators (and lawns) are unnatural! And we're back to square one. How is escalator sex and lawn shitting unnatural except via a moral proscription?
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13349 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #572 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:59pm John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:06pm: They can. Great .. so don't whinge when they do Now you're just getting bitchy.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #573 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:00pm aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:26pm: I agree Anyone who tries to engage with Mr smith or the moth in a good faith debate is either very stupid or very stubborn haven't you got horse poo to shovel? The adults are talking here.
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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #574 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:01pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Because escalators (and lawns) are unnatural!

And we're back to square one.

How is escalator sex and lawn shitting unnatural except via a moral proscription?

See moth, the only thing that makes it 'unnatural' (as you insist) is that you would be observed or held to account for your actions. Those are the moral proscriptions against escalator sex and lawn shitting - so it's not that they are unnatural, they're immoral.

NO, they're un natural because lawns and toilets are man made constructs . It has nothing to do with whether you get offended or not. Even if you didn't get offended they'd still be man made constructs

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #575 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:04pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm: There is no difference. Sex on an escalator is no less natural than sex in a bed. and no one had argued otherwise. Your argument was that homosexual sex wasn't natural. It had nothing to do with where people had sex
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Reply #576 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:04pm:

So, now there's a difference between unnatural (toilet) and unnatural (lawn) and weakens the argument that lawn shitting is unnatural relative to toilet shitting.

WTF are you on about now. They're BOTH unnatural because they're both man made constructs. You're really getting desperate with this crap

You're not up with this.

By your definition, sex in a bed is unnatural. Shitting in a toilet is unnatural. Wheren do you bugger and sh!t that would satisfy your sense of what is natural? In a tree having made a nest?

I'm happy to poo in an unnatural place. Why do I need to find somewhere natural to do it? I'm not the one who gets offended by the 'unnatural'.

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #577 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:20pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Because escalators (and lawns) are unnatural!

And we're back to square one.

How is escalator sex and lawn shitting unnatural except via a moral proscription?

See moth, the only thing that makes it 'unnatural' (as you insist) is that you would be observed or held to account for your actions. Those are the moral proscriptions against escalator sex and lawn shitting - so it's not that they are unnatural, they're immoral.

NO, they're un natural because lawns and toilets are man made constructs . It has nothing to do with whether you get offended or not. Even if you didn't get offended they'd still be man made constructs

So shitting in a toilet is unnatural. Where is natural to you. In a jungle?

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #578 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:21pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

There is no difference. Sex on an escalator is no less natural than sex in a bed.

and no one had argued otherwise. Your argument was that homosexual sex wasn't natural. It had nothing to do with where people had sex

Well, I said said not normative - being not what the majority of people practise.

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Reply #579 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:04pm:

So, now there's a difference between unnatural (toilet) and unnatural (lawn) and weakens the argument that lawn shitting is unnatural relative to toilet shitting.

WTF are you on about now. They're BOTH unnatural because they're both man made constructs. You're really getting desperate with this crap

You're not up with this.

By your definition, sex in a bed is unnatural. Shitting in a toilet is unnatural. Wheren do you bugger and sh!t that would satisfy your sense of what is natural? In a tree having made a nest?

I'm happy to poo in an unnatural place. Why do I need to find somewhere natural to do it? I'm not the one who gets offended by the 'unnatural'.

OK, but where is natural to you? In a jungle? the savannah?

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Reply #580 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:40pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

There is no difference. Sex on an escalator is no less natural than sex in a bed.

and no one had argued otherwise. Your argument was that homosexual sex wasn't natural. It had nothing to do with where people had sex

Well - homosexual sex isn't natural....

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85379 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #581 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:42pm Not me - I'm just keeping up my end of the argument here...
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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6006 Victoria Gender:	Re: Poo jabbing Reply #582 - Jul 20^th, 2022 at 7:22am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:40pm: Well - homosexual sex isn't natural.... It's just as natural as a bloke getting a blow job from the local bike isn't it?
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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #583 - Jul 20^th, 2022 at 7:39am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

There is no difference. Sex on an escalator is no less natural than sex in a bed.

and no one had argued otherwise. Your argument was that homosexual sex wasn't natural. It had nothing to do with where people had sex

Well - homosexual sex isn't natural....

I've told you before, they don't do anything that heterosexuals don't do.

Kissing, anal penetration, cuddling, vaginal penetration, holding hands, felatio, cunnilingus, water sports, S&M, B&D,etc. - all done by both homosexuals AND heterosexuals.

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Re: Poo jabbing
Reply #584 - Jul 20^th, 2022 at 9:03am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

There is no difference. Sex on an escalator is no less natural than sex in a bed.

and no one had argued otherwise. Your argument was that homosexual sex wasn't natural. It had nothing to do with where people had sex

Well - homosexual sex isn't natural....

This cuts to the core of the problem.

Human nature (unlike animal nature) is inextricably linked to culture and societal-dependent morality, such that it's largely meaningless to describe it as natural or unnatural.

What you can say (for what it's worth) is that homosexuality is not normative - meaning it is not the kind of sex as practised by the majority of people in any culture.

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