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Reply #45 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:24am
 
Still looking for excuses, Graps?  On, dearie, dearie, me, how else can you justify your views that Indigenous families didn't supposedly love their children as much as white families, hey?  That was the white administrators excuses to justify the Stolen Generations to themselves and their white compatriots, now wasn't it?  Lets see you tell yourself more lies.  I'm sure your kids appreciate them, no end, knowing daddy doesn't love them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:26am
 
History Brian - live in the here and now.
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“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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Reply #47 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:17am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 8:43am:
Aborigine children are raped and murdered all the time

They used to eat them - which is some improvement

But they often starve to death while the parents and dogs are fat


I'm not saying you're deliberately misinforming us, but extreme claims like
yours—of adult Aboriginals killing and eating their children—need some
pretty well accredited, viable supporting evidence.  Without that, your claim
can safely be dismissed as merely hearsay and/or anecdotal.

And hearsay or anecdotes are not evidence.  So... links please.


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Reply #48 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:22am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 8:14am:
...I'm barely not a boomer.  I don't want anyone to die, but honestly, I've joined 'I remember the 80s' groups on FB and been given bans for opposing racism and ignorant hate.  We were simply the last generation where it was OK to be trash, and too many of us are.

Thanks for your response, but you didn't provide any citation(s) for your
claim that Aboriginals "stole white children" (that I asked of you).

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Reply #49 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:23am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:17am:
Boris wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 8:43am:
Aborigine children are raped and murdered all the time

They used to eat them - which is some improvement

But they often starve to death while the parents and dogs are fat


I'm not saying you're deliberately misinforming us, but extreme claims like
yours—of adult Aboriginals killing and eating their children—need some
pretty well accredited, viable supporting evidence.  Without that, your claim
can safely be dismissed as merely hearsay and/or anecdotal.

And hearsay or anecdotes are not evidence.  So... links please.




They rape and murder children in the NT all the time - read a newspaper

https://humanrights.gov.au/sites/default/files/57.4%20%E2%80%9CLittle%20Children...

The SA Government’s Commission of Inquiry into child sexual abuse on Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara (APY) lands found in 2008 that sexual abuse there was normalized, with adult men holding an attitude of ‘she’s big enough’ towards young girls, and the view that ‘if you’ve got the body you do the thing’. Aboriginal girls came to accept that they would be sexually assaulted and abused, as the inquiry noted: “It is expected of them. They simply believe their resistance is futile.”

The sufferings of many young girls will go forever unrecorded – particularly if they face the ‘double-silencing’ of cultural fear plus English language inabilities. For example, one concerned teacher on APY lands noted a young Aboriginal girl who had otherwise been a bright, happy child. One day the girl came to school and ‘just laid her head on my lap and sobbed. Like, heartbreaking, wrenching sobs. There was snot and tears dripping down my legs and she sobbed probably for about 20 minutes.’ The girl’s siblings’ behavior soon changed for the worse as well, but the teacher left the school not knowing whether her report to the department had achieved anything.


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Reply #50 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:27am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:23am:
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:17am:
Boris wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 8:43am:
Aborigine children are raped and murdered all the time

They used to eat them - which is some improvement

But they often starve to death while the parents and dogs are fat


I'm not saying you're deliberately misinforming us, but extreme claims like
yours—of adult Aboriginals killing and eating their children—need some
pretty well accredited, viable supporting evidence.  Without that, your claim
can safely be dismissed as merely hearsay and/or anecdotal.

And hearsay or anecdotes are not evidence.  So... links please.




They rape and murder children in the NT all the time - read a newspaper

https://humanrights.gov.au/sites/default/files/57.4%20%E2%80%9CLittle%20Children...


You haven't read that link, have you? I'm pleased you are this ignorant and hateful, you show exactly what the end game of right wing politics is, that is, the destruction of society

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Reply #51 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:32am
 
you idiot

I have read the link

Children are raped and murdered all the time
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Reply #52 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:35am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:32am:
you idiot

I have read the link

Children are raped and murdered all the time



Yeah, all over the world.  What's your point?
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Reply #53 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:40am
 
Solicitor/historian Joan Kimm wrote in 2004: “The intensity of this violence needs to be understood by non-Indigenous Australians. When working as a solicitor with non-Indigenous clients, I encountered infanticide, homicide, suicide, betrayals, violence, incest and other child abuse. These were tragic cases but in none was the violence equivalent to the horrific circumstances of Aboriginal violence…Aboriginal women are disadvantaged in that Aboriginal culture has become an inviolate space in our society where abuse of women often occurs with impunity because of distorted views of the respect which must be paid to Indigenous rights.”

Joan Kimm: A Fatal Conjunction. Federation Press, Sydney 2004, preface, p3


In 1980, an Aboriginal man, Ivan Imityja Panka, was angry with his wife because she refused to cook meat for him. Both were drunk. He decided to punish her for being ‘cheeky’. After thrashing her within an inch of her life, Panka forced a piece of rippled reinforcing steel up her vagina, killing her. [New Delhi’s “Braveheart” died from a similar assault by thugs who used a jack handle]. Panka’s defence relied on a husband’s traditional rights of chastisement if provoked.
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Reply #54 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:41am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:40am:
Solicitor/historian Joan Kimm wrote in 2004: “The intensity of this violence needs to be understood by non-Indigenous Australians. When working as a solicitor with non-Indigenous clients, I encountered infanticide, homicide, suicide, betrayals, violence, incest and other child abuse. These were tragic cases but in none was the violence equivalent to the horrific circumstances of Aboriginal violence…Aboriginal women are disadvantaged in that Aboriginal culture has become an inviolate space in our society where abuse of women often occurs with impunity because of distorted views of the respect which must be paid to Indigenous rights.”

Joan Kimm: A Fatal Conjunction. Federation Press, Sydney 2004, preface, p3


In 1980, an Aboriginal man, Ivan Imityja Panka, was angry with his wife because she refused to cook meat for him. Both were drunk. He decided to punish her for being ‘cheeky’. After thrashing her within an inch of her life, Panka forced a piece of rippled reinforcing steel up her vagina, killing her. [New Delhi’s “Braveheart” died from a similar assault by thugs who used a jack handle]. Panka’s defence relied on a husband’s traditional rights of chastisement if provoked.


Some people are poo? Even black ones? Say it isn't so!! My entire narrative has burned to the ground
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Reply #55 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:43am
 
In Numbulwar, NT,  a man severed a limb off his sister while he was drunk. He went at her with an axe as well as a spear.”

Joan Kimm: p11


Recent child-abuse cases, from Central Australia and Queensland, included a seven-month baby taken out of her home and raped, and who needed surgery under general anaesthetic. A two-year-old girl left unattended while her mother drank, was sexually assaulted by a man and also needed surgery. A three-year-old was sexually assaulted by three men, and ten days later another man raped her twice, once using a mangrove stick

A six-year-old girl was followed to a waterhole and while playing there was anally raped while being drowned. A 10-year-old girl was tied to a tree and repeatedly raped. One health worker examined a 14-year-old girl ‘so raw from being raped – she had been abused since the age of three – that she screamed throughout her examination.’

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Reply #56 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:44am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:43am:
In Numbulwar, NT,  a man severed a limb off his sister while he was drunk. He went at her with an axe as well as a spear.”

Joan Kimm: p11


Recent child-abuse cases, from Central Australia and Queensland, included a seven-month baby taken out of her home and raped, and who needed surgery under general anaesthetic. A two-year-old girl left unattended while her mother drank, was sexually assaulted by a man and also needed surgery. A three-year-old was sexually assaulted by three men, and ten days later another man raped her twice, once using a mangrove stick

A six-year-old girl was followed to a waterhole and while playing there was anally raped while being drowned. A 10-year-old girl was tied to a tree and repeatedly raped. One health worker examined a 14-year-old girl ‘so raw from being raped – she had been abused since the age of three – that she screamed throughout her examination.’

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Reply #57 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:44am
 
Writing in Quadrant last November, Bubbles Segall, a worker for 36 years in Northern Territory community health, instanced these cases of violence:

“A woman is repeatedly evacuated from a remote community health centre to hospital with multiple fractures to the bones in her hands and burns to her vagina. On each of these occasions, her husband, in fits of jealous rage, has put burning sticks into her vagina and broken the bones in her fingers…

“A nurse is called out at midnight to attend to a woman who has been brutally bashed by her husband. She is six months pregnant with her first child. In a jealous, drunken rage, her husband accused her of talking to another man earlier in the evening. She is bleeding profusely from a head wound caused by a partial avulsion of her scalp. She has also sustained a partial tear to an earlobe. She is bleeding copiously from her vagina. Her husband has kicked her repeatedly in the abdomen. Her wounds are treated, she sustains a miscarriage and is evacuated by air ambulance to the nearest hospital that night.”

Segall finishes:

“These situations are not unique or far and few. They are everyday occurrences in many communities, and there are thousands of similar examples which to health workers gradually become overwhelming and disheartening.”

These instances could be called anecdotal. For those preferring data, see the NT crime statistics for 2007-12, released late last year  by the new CLP government.

www.nt.gov.au/justice/…/nt_annual_crime_statistics_2012.doc
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Reply #58 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:46am
 
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:44am:
Writing in Quadrant last November, Bubbles Segall, a worker for 36 years in Northern Territory community health, instanced these cases of violence:

“A woman is repeatedly evacuated from a remote community health centre to hospital with multiple fractures to the bones in her hands and burns to her vagina. On each of these occasions, her husband, in fits of jealous rage, has put burning sticks into her vagina and broken the bones in her fingers…

“A nurse is called out at midnight to attend to a woman who has been brutally bashed by her husband. She is six months pregnant with her first child. In a jealous, drunken rage, her husband accused her of talking to another man earlier in the evening. She is bleeding profusely from a head wound caused by a partial avulsion of her scalp. She has also sustained a partial tear to an earlobe. She is bleeding copiously from her vagina. Her husband has kicked her repeatedly in the abdomen. Her wounds are treated, she sustains a miscarriage and is evacuated by air ambulance to the nearest hospital that night.”

Segall finishes:

“These situations are not unique or far and few. They are everyday occurrences in many communities, and there are thousands of similar examples which to health workers gradually become overwhelming and disheartening.”

These instances could be called anecdotal. For those preferring data, see the NT crime statistics for 2007-12, released late last year  by the new CLP government.

www.nt.gov.au/justice/…/nt_annual_crime_statistics_2012.doc


I guess the interesting thing is, you don't offer solutions.  You seek out crime by aborginals to spread the lie that they are all criminals, to feed your racism
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Reply #59 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:46am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:44am:
Boris wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:43am:
In Numbulwar, NT,  a man severed a limb off his sister while he was drunk. He went at her with an axe as well as a spear.”

Joan Kimm: p11


Recent child-abuse cases, from Central Australia and Queensland, included a seven-month baby taken out of her home and raped, and who needed surgery under general anaesthetic. A two-year-old girl left unattended while her mother drank, was sexually assaulted by a man and also needed surgery. A three-year-old was sexually assaulted by three men, and ten days later another man raped her twice, once using a mangrove stick

A six-year-old girl was followed to a waterhole and while playing there was anally raped while being drowned. A 10-year-old girl was tied to a tree and repeatedly raped. One health worker examined a 14-year-old girl ‘so raw from being raped – she had been abused since the age of three – that she screamed throughout her examination.’

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Solicitor/historian Joan Kimm wrote in 2004: “The intensity of this violence needs to be understood by non-Indigenous Australians. When working as a solicitor with non-Indigenous clients, I encountered infanticide, homicide, suicide, betrayals, violence, incest and other child abuse. These were tragic cases but in none was the violence equivalent to the horrific circumstances of Aboriginal violence…Aboriginal women are disadvantaged in that Aboriginal culture has become an inviolate space in our society where abuse of women often occurs with impunity because of distorted views of the respect which must be paid to Indigenous rights.”
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