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Reply #90 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 11:29pm

It's not a matter of kids being removed from functioning single parent families at all - and again - the process is exhaustive before that point is reached..... and often fails long before that point is reached, sometimes resulting in dire consequences for children, which is then blamed on the inaction of authorities.

Brian - it is not a matter of some storm troopers coming along and stealing Aboriginal children from good homes - it is a serious matter of removing some of them from clear and present harm, and hopefully providing a situation for them in which they will not devolve into criminality and substance abuse and thus just go back into the sewer.

Are you serious??

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Reply #91 - Jul 18^th, 2022 at 11:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 11:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 10:05pm:

And where they are neglected, often ill-treated by 'clan members visiting' - suffer often from the 'new lion in the pride' thing where the bloke passing through the mother does things to the kids.... or are blatantly abused sexually or otherwise.

It's not a matter of kids being removed from functioning single parent families at all - and again - the process is exhaustive before that point is reached.

Graps, I have been kind to you. You have demonstrated that you are a fool and a Racist. You were given more than a chance to show that you were mistaken in your views. Badly mistaken. You however have refused to redeem your ways and kept on with the same old Racist ways and views. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

That you, Lefty? Clearly I am NOT mistaken in my views and no CURRENT children are removed without a full and proper course of action being followed.

If you want to call that racist, that is your problem..... in that case... just let them go their own way without any White man interference and see how they go.....

..... coming soon...... a show that will shake the socks from around Aboriginal necks in custody.............. SURVIVOR- Aboriginal Sovereignty .......... a group of men and women and children will be placed on a remote island and allowed to do things their way..... tune in each week for updates on how they are faring in The New Wildnerness ...........

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Re: Stolen Generation?
Reply #92 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 12:05am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

It's not a matter of kids being removed from functioning single parent families at all - and again - the process is exhaustive before that point is reached..... and often fails long before that point is reached, sometimes resulting in dire consequences for children, which is then blamed on the inaction of authorities.

Brian - it is not a matter of some storm troopers coming along and stealing Aboriginal children from good homes - it is a serious matter of removing some of them from clear and present harm, and hopefully providing a situation for them in which they will not devolve into criminality and substance abuse and thus just go back into the sewer.

Are you serious??

Very, far more than yourself it appears. I listen to what Indigenous people say. They are upset. They feel that the Stolen Generations are ongoing. No matter how you dress it up, it appears so. They are entitled to a better explanation than what you and the white administrators have provided. They are citizens, as such they are entitled to know why their children are removed from their care, they are entitled to know where they are going. All you've offered are platitudes. They are not happy.

Their needs and desires are not listened to. They offered from the heart solutions to many of their problems and they were ignored and derided. They are not happy. The previous government treated them with contempt. They have asked for a voice, for a means that they can address many of their problems at the heart of them and they are derided for it. They do not want another chamber of parliament, they just want to have the ability to review the laws that apply to them. Perhaps the new Government will address their desires with a referendum. Without the bullshit that you and the other Racists continually throw their way. The Australian people will decide just as they decided in 1967 to overturn the Racist views of their forebears. Good on them. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #93 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 12:09am

You are trapped in the PAST, Brian...... the current strand is about TODAY.... and there is in place a stringent process before removal can take place, principally because of the outcome of past such removals.

Are you there yet? I'm losing faith in your mental acuity, son.

TODAY - NO Aboriginal kid is removed without full and proper reason - YOU need to ask yourself why those reasons continue to prevail and are per capita predominant in that group .... not do a Lefty and lash out like a blinded octopus....

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85220 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Stolen Generation? Reply #94 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 12:09am If they 'feel' the 'stolen generations' are ongoing - then they need to lift their game. Got it?
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Reply #95 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:26am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Perhaps the government thought they could fix it more cheaply by giving away national parks to whatever aboriginal groups offered to tow the line.

Honestly we need all boomers to be dead, they did this and insist it was OK

You first you POS.

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Reply #96 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:28am

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Perhaps the government thought they could fix it more cheaply by giving away national parks to whatever aboriginal groups offered to tow the line.

Honestly we need all boomers to be dead, they did this and insist it was OK

You first you POS.

I'm not scum.

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Reply #97 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 8:08am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

...Yes, aboriginals stole white kids as well.

A claim like this needs a citation, otherwise it's just a third-party anecdote.
And anecdotes are not evidence.

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Honestly we need all boomers to be dead, they did this and insist it was OK.

Well, as a boomer myself, I also can't agree with your death wish LOL.

And as such, I never condoned any taking of aboriginal children. That
was perpetrated by my parent's generation, up until the mid-1960s.

I'd be interested in knowing how old you are. I presume you're not a boomer?

OK Geoff - well why were white children taken - as the OP suggests.

This womans case was definitely not the only one.

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Re: Stolen Generation?
Reply #98 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am

Boris wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Fatal-Conjunction-Joan-Kimm/dp/186287509X

Brian McCoy reviewing Kimm's book in 'Eureka Street' [2022] says:

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Kimm’s book 'A Fatal Conjunction' appears to be based on the
author’s thesis for a Master of Laws at Monash University in 1999
(although this background is not mentioned). In a relatively short
and easy to read book, she—a non-Indigenous woman—has
opened a particular and public window on the violence that has
been, and continues to be, experienced by Indigenous women.

Evidently, she has come to her perspective of this violence from
legal background, the reading of case studies and some historical
and anthropological research.

It is not apparent that she has lived in Indigenous communities
or collaborated with Indigenous women in the forming of her
arguments.

—Can a solely academic rendering of the aboriginal children and
women's plight be considered truly representative? Surely she
should have investigated at ground zero?

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Re: Stolen Generation?
Reply #99 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:28am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Perhaps the government thought they could fix it more cheaply by giving away national parks to whatever aboriginal groups offered to tow the line.

Honestly we need all boomers to be dead, they did this and insist it was OK

You first you POS.

I'm not scum.

Says you - but you certainly fit my descriptor of scum or POS.

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Reply #100 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:32am

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:28am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Perhaps the government thought they could fix it more cheaply by giving away national parks to whatever aboriginal groups offered to tow the line.

Honestly we need all boomers to be dead, they did this and insist it was OK

You first you POS.

I'm not scum.

Says you - but you certainly fit my descriptor of scum or POS.

Why is that? White genocide?

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Stolen Generation? Reply #101 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:32am Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am: OK Geoff - well why were white children taken - as the OP suggests. This womans case was definitely not the only one. White children were taken from single mothers. Mixed race children were taken to beat the black out of them
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Re: Stolen Generation?
Reply #102 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:37am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:41pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:38pm:

Is that a declaration of war? Happy to oblige... seems to me it's your generation we need to get rid of - the over-entitled ones that the Boomers raised into a better life.

We did them no favours... too many of them went off the rails like you. That's why, regardless of any physical manifestations, you remain a fourteen year old...

What was it that happened to you at age fourteen that locked you into that age forever? We're very accommodating here - we're happy to listen - just let it all out... maybe we could help you with that hump and those chips....

I agree that young people are generally moral and compassionate. And old people were trash in 1984, not gonna lie. But boomers are the worst, because they burned down society for those who followed them

War? LOL!! you're all close to death, arthritically posting hate on the internet while cancer eats you from inside. I just need to wait

What absolute BS. Without boomers you wouldn't be here ..... you wouldn't be typing on the internet, you wouldn't be living with all the mod cons you have. You wouldn't have the reliable power that has allowed you to have much you use.

You are typical whinging excuse maker for all your own woes.... needing a scapegoat for your own short comings.

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Re: Stolen Generation?
Reply #103 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:37am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

OK Geoff - well why were white children taken - as the OP suggests.

This womans case was definitely not the only one.

White children were taken from single mothers. Mixed race children were taken to beat the black out of them

Bullshyte

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Reply #104 - Jul 19^th, 2022 at 8:40am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Then it will be your turn in the barrel of unwarranted accusation and abuse..... can't wait to see it....
your neighbours are right, it seems...

I get on great with my neighbours.

No, I won't ever be human garbage. I get on great with younger people now, and always expect to

6 replies in 8 minutes? don't injure yourself, boomer. It's just the internet....

You can talk you 100 a day hypocrite.

You have so many tickets on yourself it's a wonder you can type.

DH

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