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Re: Commies can't do fascism
Reply #45 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:24pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:19pm:
Well, you are  ignorant,  vicious and blinkered enough to be both a  commie and a nazi. You are a totalitarian prick, ratty on uppers.


It's funny the right wing fundamentally agree with hitler and talk like this.  LOL!!!!
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Reply #46 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:37pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:24pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:21pm:
Ah. I mean, are you a communist?


this must be the fabled debating ability of the right wing.....


You can make the answer as complicated as you want. It is still a very simple question.

Are you a communist?
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Re: Commies can't do fascism
Reply #47 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:37pm:
You can make the answer as complicated as you want. It is still a very simple question.

Are you a communist?


It's amusing to me that you have no capacity for discussion or debate.
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Reply #48 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm
 
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?
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Reply #49 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?


What do you mean by that? What would make me a communist? Reading Marx? Supporting Stalinism? Admiring Cuba? Wanting to live in China?
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Reply #50 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?


What do you mean by that? What would make me a communist? Reading Marx? Supporting Stalinism? Admiring Cuba? Wanting to live in China?

By your own definition.

Go on.

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Re: Commies can't do fascism
Reply #51 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?


What do you mean by that? What would make me a communist? Reading Marx? Supporting Stalinism? Admiring Cuba? Wanting to live in China?

By your own definition.

Go on.



By my own definition, no, I'm not a communist. Right wing extremists just assume that extremism is the only option, so if I am not far right I must be far left
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Reply #52 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:59pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?


What do you mean by that? What would make me a communist? Reading Marx? Supporting Stalinism? Admiring Cuba? Wanting to live in China?

By your own definition.

Go on.



By my own definition, no, I'm not a communist. Right wing extremists just assume that extremism is the only option, so if I am not far right I must be far left



Well, it wasn't that hard, once you comprehended a simple question (took you a lot of running, crying and yeah-but-no-butting).

Not that your definition IS THE definition, either for commies, fascists, right wing etc.
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Reply #53 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:59pm:
Well, it wasn't that hard, once you comprehended a simple question (took you a lot of running, crying and yeah-but-no-butting).

Not that your definition IS THE definition, either for commies, fascists, right wing etc.


Now you're getting it.  If I just said no, I would not know what he meant by the question, or if my answer was accurate
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Re: Commies can't do fascism
Reply #54 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:05pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:59pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
Let's start one.

Are you a communist?


What do you mean by that? What would make me a communist? Reading Marx? Supporting Stalinism? Admiring Cuba? Wanting to live in China?

By your own definition.

Go on.



By my own definition, no, I'm not a communist. Right wing extremists just assume that extremism is the only option, so if I am not far right I must be far left



Well, it wasn't that hard, once you comprehended a simple question (took you a lot of running, crying and yeah-but-no-butting).

Not that your definition IS THE definition, either for commies, fascists, right wing etc.


In this case, however, there are clearly a form of madness. Only an extremist would view everyday thinking as fascist or anything remotely similar - anyway - trannies are still not getting their way and their problems are all their own making.... they can get help to heal the rift between their mind and body.  Sounds easier to treat the head than sculpt the body...
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Reply #55 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:06pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:05pm:
In this case, however, there are clearly a form of madness. Only an extremist would view everyday thinking as fascist or anything remotely similar - anyway - trannies are still not getting their way and their problems are all their own making.... they can get help to heal the rift between their mind and body.  Sounds easier to treat the head than sculpt the body...


So you're saying Nazism was not fascism in Germany, because it was every day thinking?

Cry about cock on another thread, this ones about communism.

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Reply #56 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:21pm:
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property.


quick google:

"What is Marx view on private property?

As Marx says, under capitalism, "private property has already been abolished for nine-tenths of the population." In other words, as long as the economy is run by a few wealthy people in their own interest, the working class won't be able to achieve prosperity.


Hence we can see Hitler's first mis-characterization of Marxism.

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Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.


Hitler's comment here re  'negation of personality' merely confirms he is a typical Conservative who surmises government on behalf of collective well-being will necessarily 'negate personality' (no doubt,  of criminal drug lords and the like....). 

And as for "patriotism", it is mostly "the last refuge of the scoundrel"; and of course  nationalists (and Hitler was above all a nationalist, like most flag-waving Conservatives).   

Whereas  Marxists are indeed internationalists: the world urgently needs to put aside nationalism and adopt an international rules based system  (meaning the power of veto in the UNSC has to be consigned to the dust-bin of history).   

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We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists.
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That's right, because Hitler was a Conservative, as shown above).

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We are not internationalists.


As pointed out above.

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Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…


So workers exist for the fulfillment of the racist state....

That's fascism, certainly neither Marxism or socialism. 

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‘We believe in a healthy mind, in a healthy body. The body politic must be sound if the soul is to be healthy. Moral and physical health are synonymous.’


Ok...healthy individuals and healthy community, good.

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‘Mussolini’, I interjected, ‘said the same to me’. Hitler beamed.

‘The slums’, he added, ‘are responsible for nine-tenths, alcohol for one-tenth of all human depravity.


I would say 50/50, but anyway...

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No healthy man is a Marxian.


Conservative ideological BS...

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Healthy men recognise the value of personality. We contend against the forces of disaster and degeneration.


Non sequitur....

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Bavaria is comparatively healthy because it is not completely industrialised… If we wish to save Germany, we must see to it that our farmers remain faithful to the land. To do so, they must have room to breathe and room to work.’


A quaint juxtaposition of  starry-eyed  Conservationism (Bavaria) set against exploitative capitalism in the North.   

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‘Where will you find the room to work?’

‘We must retain our colonies and expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world domination with England. Now we must stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake.'”
https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/hitler-nazi-form-of-socialism-1932/

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So you can be a Hitlerite socialist or Marxian socialist. Both socialismx are grand, murderous insanities.


I think Hitler - obviously a very confused man in search of an ideology -  succeeded in totally bamboozling you.



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Re: Commies can't do fascism
Reply #57 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:46pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:06pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:05pm:
In this case, however, there are clearly a form of madness. Only an extremist would view everyday thinking as fascist or anything remotely similar - anyway - trannies are still not getting their way and their problems are all their own making.... they can get help to heal the rift between their mind and body.  Sounds easier to treat the head than sculpt the body...


So you're saying Nazism was not fascism in Germany, because it was every day thinking?

Cry about cock on another thread, this ones about communism.



You re confusing yourself again... nobody said that Fascism was ordinary everyday thinking - any more than the silliness of many Russians in actually believing their fearless leader is saving them from Fascists...

We all know how touchy you are about your trannies... don't let it lead you into rash actions...

Isn't it past your curfew time or are you on someone else's computer?  Not out with all your friends having a coldie or anything?  Glass of win with all the women friends?

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Reply #58 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:54pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
You re confusing yourself again...


You might try some actual debate debate, as I did above in #56
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