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Both P&O and Princess cruise liners….
Everyone that boards a ship is to be covid vaxxed I believe?
It’s everywhere and the hospitals are not coping at present either.
Huge spikes with covid cases… seems the 90% vaxxed are safe?
I was reading… and looked at graphs…covid case numbers were lower after a 2nd jab… but a sharp covid infection rise after 3rd and 4th jab.
Now look at what’s happening… hospitals overflowing… ambulance ramping and 7 code reds so far in Melbourne this year. Cruise ships confining passengers to their statesrooms due to covid outbreaks.
So how’s it working out for everyone?
My hairdresser got a rash after her first jab… then ended up with covid on Xmas day… after her second jab has boils on her skin…. now says she will not get any boosters  ….
Why are some people lucky and have no reaction whilst others, like my friend’s 22yr old daughter that got pericarditis after her first jab? She thought it wouldn’t happen to her.
My bro in law gets all shots and about to get 4th jab and absolutely no reaction.
So I know a mix of those that have bad reactions and those with no reactions.
I’m not taking a chance to find out if I’m lucky or not with jabs. I got a harsh case of Covid (delta and omnicron 99% symptoms combined!) it took me out for a six but I survived… no breathing problems thank goodness, one symptom I didn’t get. Now I supposedly got anti bodies… well… so far so good… I’m good as gold….and I read that if I do catch it again it should be milder symptoms.
But I will let you all know how I fare the remainder of this winter.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid-19-cruise-ship-australia-pacific-explore...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/coral-princess-cruise-covid-outbreak-/101...

It works really well doesn't it Carl LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:06pm:


What works really well?

Going on a cruise or a flight during a raging pandemic (that most people seem to have been deceived into believing is over) and not expecting to get Covid?

That doesn't seem to be working too well at all, does it? Not surprisingly.

Carl D wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:14pm:


What’s deceitful? The goal posts being continually moved? Saying everyone should be jabbed to minimise the rise of infection? Yet it’s not just cruise ships riddled with Covid…. It’s in every day suburbs, shopping etc. hospitals are over run at present. They weren’t in planes or ships.

I was just talking to hubby today… saying that all those 2 years we had severe lockdowns, mandatory masks, social distancing… not allowed further than 5 kms from our homes…. Not allowed out after 8 pm…
All for what? A big fat nothing!
The vaccines came along and how’s it working now?

What's deceitful? Oh, I dunno, Lols.

But, when between 40 and 70 Australians a day are dying from Covid (and, yes - the majority are dying from and not just with Covid and it's not just the 'oldies') and thousands more are in hospital while we're all being told to get out there again and work, work, work and spend, spend, spend and the mainstream media keeps saying things like "post pandemic" and "now the pandemic is over" and not even mention the daily deaths then I'd say we're being deceived big time.

Plus, with the majority of the population seemingly unable to think any further ahead than their next overseas/interstate holiday and also can't even be bothered to wear a mask to protect others and themselves despite mask wearing now being "strongly encouraged" by the Prime Minister which, not surprisingly, is being almost completely ignored (be sure to read the replies) then I'd say the deceit (gaslighting would probably be a better description) was easy to accomplish as far as governments and business was concerned.

As I've said before - like many Australians I am now extremely disappointed with Anthony Albanese and his Federal Labor government for their inaction so far in dealing with the ongoing Covid pandemic.

A lot of us voted for real change but all that happened was we voted out sh!t (Liberal) and got sh!t lite (Labor) instead.

No wonder the ALP is now being referred to as Alternate Liberal Party. Sadly, it's been that way for quite some time. Both major parties are controlled by big business.

I won't make that mistake ever again as I'm sure many other people won't when election time rolls around once more - Federal and State.

Sophia wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:21pm:


Firstly Lols, I'm pleased to hear you survived COVID apparently okay.  

Although I have to say I find your overall attitude to the pandemic somewhat
overly cynical. 

Without some sort of clinical confirmation on your hairdresser's or your friends
daughter's adverse reactions, it's impossible to draw any correlation with the
COVID vaccinations they had.  Did they request and receive any diagnostic
information from their treating doctors?  Or did they simply self-diagnose and
come to the conclusion that the COVID vaccine directly caused their skin rash
or pericarditis (fatigue, coughing, low-grade fever, heart palpitations, shortness
of breath etc)?

On the whole, the COVID vaccination programs have been very successful for
hundreds of millions of people globally, and in 2021 nearly 20 million lives were
saved by COVID-19 vaccines.  From December 2020 to December 2021 more
than 4.3 billion people around the world were vaccinated. [CBS News, 24 June 2022]

BTW, in commercial aircraft, air is pumped from ceiling vents into the cabin at
a speed of about 1m/sec, and sucked out below the window seats. About 40%
of the cabin's air gets recycled through a HEPA system, with the remaining 60%
being fresh, piped in from the jet engines outside the plane.

HEPA filtration efficiently capture particles the size of—and far smaller than—the
virus that causes COVID.

Epidemiologist Professor Oliver Watson of Imperial College London says that;
"Catastrophic would be the first word that comes to mind if vaccines hadn't been
available to fight the coronavirus. The findings quantify just how much worse
the pandemic could have been if we did not have these vaccines".

Disgusting, isn't it, Bobby?

But, that's the sort of "I'm alright Jack and stuff everyone else" society we've become, unfortunately.

Another Covid myth that many people seem to have swallowed is the "Oh, I've already had Covid so now I'm safe" one with some people (especially the young ones) deliberately trying to catch Covid to "get it over and done with".

Perhaps they need to have a look here:

Each SARS-CoV-2 reinfection causes more severe disease

Quote:


Where's Mr. "Mild" aquascoot? Hope he (and others who believe Covid is "mild") reads this.

I read somewhere recently where a well known respected doctor (not you, Coatsworth ) said the best protection against Covid is:

1. Avoid getting Covid at all costs.

2. If you do get it, try and make sure you get it as few times as possible.

Exactly.

Carl D wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 9:03am:



All we needed to beat this Covid were people who had a little bit of responsibility -
observe normal hygiene practices:

you don't cough all over food that people are about to eat,
you don't go to food court or restaurant if you have any symptoms,
stay at home if you're sick and order things online,
wear a mask if close to many people,
wash your hands regularly,
put hand sanitiser on your hands before and after shopping.

It's not that difficult.
Covid has been spread by irresponsible idiots.