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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #45 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:07pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:06pm:

So all those are imports? Not the tradies I know around here... my doctor is an exception.... sounds like a good reason to return training to our own first.... plenty of good kids missing out for several reasons these days.... full-paying foreign students... quotas .... discrimination .... phoney and non-functioning education system ....

Who are not 'your own', fascist???

I love watching you cry as your world burns. It's GLORIOUS

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #46 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:08pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 1:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:07pm:

Capitalism is the engine of the economy, it prevents mile long "Soviet Union" type queues waiting to get 2 ounces of bread and a slice of sausage

were they caused by a lack of capitalism or by sanctions?

A lack of capitalism ... and far too much socialism

The problem with top heavy socialism is explained in the Utube video "Public V Private"

Well, no, actually. Not in the slightest.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #47 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:12pm

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 5:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 10:04am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 10:02am:

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 1:33pm:

What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?

too much government spending

That and government regulations interfering with who can go to work, who can process and deliver goods and services (supply chains). The war in Ukraine contributes to grain, fertiliser and energy supplies globally. High energy costs here, due to government action in the energy exploration and supply also contribute to the increased cost of production and transport.

All that, and the lowest immigration intake since -

You.

Another government regulation.

Oh? If one recalls, you've always been rather keen on such regulation, dear boy. Your preferred phrase?

BAN THEM.

FD was rather fond of the regulation too - before he became an advocate for wage growth.

You?

Still government regulation, whether one likes it or not.
No?

Ah yes, but you, dear boy, are free to go back to where you came from. Not all of us have such Freeeeeedom.

But if one may be so frank, why not? Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen seems perfectly nice to me.

If the tinted races here ever get too bothersome, you can vote with your feet.

Strange. You're still here. Must be the weather, no?

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #48 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:22pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 5:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 10:02am:

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 1:33pm:

What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?

too much government spending

That and government regulations interfering with who can go to work, who can process and deliver goods and services (supply chains). The war in Ukraine contributes to grain, fertiliser and energy supplies globally. High energy costs here, due to government action in the energy exploration and supply also contribute to the increased cost of production and transport.

All that, and the lowest immigration intake since -

You.

So this... errr.... lower immigration... how exactly is it supposed to raise costs of living when there are not as many people to compete for goods and services? Market forces all fallen down? Economy controlled by puppet-masters unseen?

Sort of like - "Oh - so the selfish bastards out there are getting less unemployment and can earn more - well - we'll fix that for the Mustaphas - we'll just slap up the prices to suck up their extra dough!"

But of course. I'd say getting a decent plumber or builder or doctor in some areas is probably going to cost you more.

But that's just me.

So all those are imports? Not the tradies I know around here... my doctor is an exception.... sounds like a good reason to return training to our own first.... plenty of good kids missing out for several reasons these days.... full-paying foreign students... quotas .... discrimination .... phoney and non-functioning education system ....

Prior to covid, dear, two things kept Australian economy in modest, but stable, levels of economic growth: mining exports and immigration.

Yes, paying students, but also the building sector and property sales.

At number 8 in the world, the education system is functioning rather well, comparatively speaking.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

I imagine that measure does not include universities, which are badly funded.

Alas, in many cases academics need importing too, as I'm sure the old boy will concur.

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #49 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 9:50pm

With relentless automation, AI, technological innovation no developed country needs mass immigration. Most immigrants - almost all illegals and family unions - are net burdens, being unskilled and culturally unable to fit in and fully function. That's why PER CAPITA economic benefits are negligible with such a large number of immigrants. That most of them a culturally alien and often incompatible just exercabates social fracturing an alienation.
We do not need to import Indian trolley collectors, petrol station attendants, Chinese and Indian grandparents, shonky Leb builders, etc. We do not need Muslims hostile to liberal Western democracy, Chinese pushing the CCP agenda, any number of third worlders only hers to send money back home. That's not building a cohesive nation, that's exploiting hospitality.

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Reply #50 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 11:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:22pm:

Prior to covid, dear, two things kept Australian economy in modest, but stable, levels of economic growth: mining exports and immigration.

Yes, paying students, but also the building sector and property sales.

At number 8 in the world, the education system is functioning rather well, comparatively speaking.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

I imagine that measure does not include universities, which are badly funded.

Alas, in many cases academics need importing too, as I'm sure the old boy will concur.

Those highlights show the underlying San Andreas faults in our economic mix, and why it is unsustainable.

Banana Republicanism - mining removes from these shores the vast majority of the profits, little tax is paid in reality, and both short and long term it only benefits a few.

Immigration as an artificial prop for GDP - cash through the economy - is false since it spreads out and thus dilutes overall prosperity - while once again benefiting the few. A prosperous NATION does not have homelessness, un- and under-employment on the grand scale, and the sheer inability of the many to even get into the housing market. That makes it hand-to-mouth forever for many families.

In turn these, along with endless mass immigration, stimulate the development and property markets - but these again ultimately only benefit the few, and exacerbate the overall problem of lack of general prosperity and genuine opportunity.

The education system for a long time has not been turning out people who can do ... far too many are turned out to ostensibly think, which leads to another false economy of endless growth in the social sciences area - some of which is utter crap and can only be defined as a job creation opportunity.

These factors - and the reality that a new Underworld is being created in several ways - lead to escalating costs of living in all things - since every aspect of economic activity has to run faster in order to meet the demands of cost rises leading to wage/income rises., and thus the price of everything goes up and up with no end in sight to this spiral of madness.

There ya go... told yez that when Lefty shuts TFU in his rants we can get some real work done.. endless spoiling attacks on the Groesbeek Heights by second and third class troops are keeping us from taking Nijmegen Bridge and moving on to Arnhem...

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #51 - Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 11:06pm

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 9:50pm:

With relentless automation, AI, technological innovation no developed country needs mass immigration. Most immigrants - almost all illegals and family unions - are net burdens, being unskilled and culturally unable to fit in and fully function. That's why PER CAPITA economic benefits are negligible with such a large number of immigrants. That most of them a culturally alien and often incompatible just exercabates social fracturing an alienation.
We do not need to import Indian trolley collectors, petrol station attendants, Chinese and Indian grandparents, shonky Leb builders, etc. We do not need Muslims hostile to liberal Western democracy, Chinese pushing the CCP agenda, any number of third worlders only hers to send money back home. That's not building a cohesive nation, that's exploiting hospitality.

Illegals? Try telling that to the southern US states, old boy. Their industries are driven by illegals. The bosses love them.

Australia, less so. Maybe a few Pommie backpackers and Chow bus boys. They're not big earners.

Family reunion visas play an important role, particularly spousal visas. You want immigrants to breed. Young families are the big economic drivers. They add population, critical to aging, dwindling populations like ours.

Mum and dad pay for themselves. At over a hundred grand a visa, they pretty much fund the staffing costs of the Dept Home Affairs. With mandatory life savings and health insurance, they look after themselves.

Aging populations like Italy and Greece would kill for more immigrants. Small towns there are begging for more people. Greece has a generous golden visa program - buy a €250,000 house and you can move your entire family over for life. Pity the wages are so low, but what a place to retire, eh?

Australia has a fair bit of competition for immigrants. Canada, a similar economy to Australia, is inviting half a million in this year. Populate or perish - they get it.

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Re: What Is Driving Cost Of Living Crisis?
Reply #52 - Jul 24^th, 2022 at 2:23am

Kat wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 1:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:07pm:

Capitalism is the engine of the economy, it prevents mile long "Soviet Union" type queues waiting to get 2 ounces of bread and a slice of sausage

were they caused by a lack of capitalism or by sanctions?

A lack of capitalism ... and far too much socialism

The problem with top heavy socialism is explained in the Utube video "Public V Private"

Well, no, actually. Not in the slightest.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

The Soviet Union had no capitalism, it was against the law, you could get shot. So the whole system was only unsustainable socialism

You need both for a sustainable balanced economy and society, if it's going to last. China introduced capitalism after Tiananmen Square, and that's why it survived economically and prospered. The Chinese are getting rich and taking over the World, that can't be done with just socialism alone ... they needed money, and lots of it

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