freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 7:42pm:


Once again you are hiding behind conflation of terms; capitalisn per se is not the problem, it worked well in thepost-war period up to the 70's. with increasing living standards for all, under Keynesian "welfare state" policies. 

The problem is neoliberal market policies adopted since then, which have seen stagnating wages at the bottom end, and soaring inequality.

Not to mention democracies becoming increasingly dysfunctional and hyperpartisan: the EU's 3rd biggest economy doesn't have a government ...with the populist Right looking like it has a chance,  after a decade of economic stagnation in Italy.  And Macron paralyzed because the working class can't cope with the cost of living. 

Brazil's GDP has slumped by half since the GFC, so that Brazil's GDP per capita is now less than China's.
....repeated in many countries.

In Oz it will be interesting to see how long neoliberal Albo's 'honeymoon' can remain positive, given current cost of living pressures. 

The US still in turmoil due to half the population living payckeck to payckeck, resulting in hyperpartisanship and the ongoing effects of a still disputed election result. 

Frank wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:


I know Frank.  He's (clearly) not very good at this 😂🤣😆

.... and answered in the negative.... only a fool or a moron would sign up to such an agreement....

The propaganda is in full swing - on Twitter this morning there was an article saying the perhaps Pauline Hanson should be in control of the NO case, since she never saw a piece of Black land she didn't want to take...

Hanson does not represent the vast majority of ordinary Australians who can see the massive holes in this nonsensical idea, and it has nothing to do with 'taking Black land' - but it is one enormous question of Blacks taking 'back' what they consider their land - every square inch of it ... so very much of it they never ever fitted into it .... but reckon to this day that when they stand on our National Park Mount Warning, they then own everything they can see... what outdated imperialist nonsense in this day and age .. and they don't need any huge hunting grounds to survive as hunter-gatherers... the club and the bottle-o and Macca's are just down the street ...

Sorry - those days are gone - get on board the train or get off it ... can't ride that train to Prosperity by standing on the step at the side of the carriage and complaining at the passengers inside.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 15^th, 2022 at 1:12am:

it would assist readers if you identified the post to which you re replying.  Don't be frightened of debate...

Hmmm NO it is 👌

You racists are running 'round like chooks with their heads cut off,  scared that the Australian people will vote in favour of this proposal.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

The voice is a body to make recommendations to Parliament.

It's not a 3rd house, it's not a legislative body, it's a group of Indigenous members who will provide their opinions based on their experience and expertise in areas surrounding policy and politics of indigenous Australians.

The advice can be taken, cherry-picked or entirely ignored by the Government.

If you don't want an indigenous voice like that to parliament then I expect you'll be lining up to ban lobbyists also, and if not, why?

I genuinely don't understand why this is bad...