Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 7:06pm:


Good, even if I'm surprised: she is aware we are all in this together, which doesn't seem to align with your theory of 'personal responsibility'.

Price: "we are all responsible for ending the black on black violence in the communities".

We are a lucky people living in a lucky nation. Our way of life, democracy, and freedoms are the envy of the world. We have welcomed millions of people to our shores and there are so many more people who would rather live in Australia than anywhere else. But we can never forget that nations, just like individuals, very much make their own luck. We are lucky Australia was settled by the British rather than colonialists from any other country. History cannot be undone, and the inevitable inquiring explorations of mankind have meant all corners of the Earth have been settled. This landmass we call home was never going to be left untouched by anyone other than our First Peoples. The British brought with them the rule of law, concepts such as freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and what became our democracy. Too often when young Australians are taught history, these gifts are either ignored or taken for granted. Yes, like every nation our history features dark and shameful incidents but that is not our whole history. We shouldn’t shy away from the fact that our history is made up of the good and the bad. There is much to celebrate from our efforts to strive to make better lives for all Australians.

Our nation’s schools’ sole responsibility should be to educate, not indoctrinate, but we have in recent times witnessed the overwhelming politicisation of our children. Children are now encouraged to skip school to be paraded as activist spearheads by adults who place the weight of the world on their shoulders. Meanwhile, children in remote communities, where school atten­dance rates are in some places as low as 19 per cent, do not have the privilege of gaining an education that the activist class take for granted. Everyone wants to be an activist – to push governments to solve their dilemmas – but no one wants to be responsible for themselves.
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It is the same attitude we hear with platitudes of motherhood statements from our now Prime Minister, who suggests, without any evidence whatsoever, that a Voice to parliament bestowed upon us through the virtuous act of symbolic gesture by this government is what is going to empower us. This government has yet to demonstrate how this proposed Voice will deliver practical outcomes and unite, rather than drive a wedge further between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australia. And, no, Prime Minister, we don’t need another handout, as you have described the Uluru statement to be. No – we Indigenous Australians have not come to agreement on this statement, as you have also claimed. It would be far more dignifying if we were recognised and respected as individuals in our own right who are not simply defined by our racial heritage but by the content of our character.

You Lefties are obsessed with the date.

Were they Cannibals? Yes

When did they stop? I really am not sure.

Does it still go on?

Possibly.

Why are you so obsessed with Cannibalism and the date it stopped?

Rape and Murder of children still goes on today and is widespread.

You say nothing.

For some of you struggling ones here - don't you think it's about time you got your minds around the idea that nothing in this society is a matter of 'with us or against us'...?

A lot of you need to go back to school - a real school that teaches proper thinking..

NO to a voice and NO to ridiculous tranny ideas is a right ... Jesus - just read a tweet where some tranny activist said that periods were a product of the patriarchy and defined by it and women were being 'gatekeepers' over their reproductive abilities so as to exclude trannies from something they are not capable of ...

Never heard such twaddle in my life... then this nonsense about some voice all driven by emotions and not sense....

NO to Voice... NO to Special Tranny Rights - and Hands Off Our National Parks!!

STOP THE POLITICS OF DIVISION AND THE POLICIES OF EXCLUSION!!

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:



1. Of course she does say it.
See point 2.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:


I'm not confused; BOTH actions are required, ie by the individual, and by the nation faced with eradicating the gap (which is a "national duty" to achieve).  Some individuals will be more recalcitrant/less amenable to direction than others...but 'lock them up', or let them out again without proper instruction, on an endless 'merry go round' in and out of prison, is evidence of failed intervention.

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The individual Australian should support his/her government to intervene (eg, to reduce crime and alcoholism) in dysfunctional communities, because most individual Australians do not personally know an aboriginal (black) Australian.

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Outlined above - reduce crime and alcoholism

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ditto

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The respected elders (if they exist) - with the full support of the Oz government (eg, banning slippery lobbying from grog profiteers) should also intervene - face to face - in their local communities to reduce crime and alcoholism.

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an economy in which all can successfully participate is indeed necessary; but even if you are satisfied with the egregious effects of the dole for unemployed whites, you cannot be satisfied with the dole in the black community which has much higher rates of unemployment, and hence more egregious social dysfunction effects. 

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True, but the egregious effects of unemployment are MUCH worse in the black community as noted above, and if the nation is to close the gap, black unemployment must be addressed with 'positive discrimination' - at least until  unemployment in both black and non-black communities is the same....

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Thoroughly addressed and refuted above. All involuntary unemployment is "unbalanced"; and all individuals need to participate in the  economy to overcome this imbalance. 

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You are confusing the 'law of the jungle' which the Right are content to accept as the basis of their economic ideology (with no upper or lower limits to individual incomes); with 'Aboriginal law" which has been swept away by history (though I admit failure to recognize this latter point is a sin committed by all sides; aboriginals ought to be able to consider being astronauts too if they wish - hardly compatible with/relevant to traditional 'aboriginal law').   

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The alpha males/females of ANY system based on the law of the jungle  - like our own economy - always 'lord it over' the less competitive members of the community.

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Regardless of "silverbacks' (eg Trump...though he is being brought down by the law), the leaders of the mega-tech companies are currently laying off thousands of workers; one commentator expressed concern for the city of San Francisco, given the massive number of lay-offs....in an economy based on "the Law of the Jungle".

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 11:16pm:

I can only agree with this.

Saying the government should "intervene" without defining the
specific mechanics of those interventions is pointless.