Gnads wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 12:10pm:


Correct; but again, if you had been following the debate, you would not be telling me what I have already clearly stated. 

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Now we can begin a debate: by "both sides" you have reverted to identifying whites and blacks as separate groups, rather than addressing the plight of the long-term unemployed in both groups.

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see.... you proved my point...

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A Job Guarantee, to end long term unemployment among whites AND blacks.

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It's 'mirror time' ....you blind Thatcherite TINA (google it)  ideologue.

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I'd suggest you educate yourself about economics.

Boris wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 12:45pm:


Such are the sad consequence of the destruction of an ancient culture, some members of which managed to survive - albeit within massive cultural dysfunction -  into the present day.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 12:51pm:



No - that IS the ancient culture - the law of the jungle, the rule of the Silverback with the biggest fists.... still goes on to this day.

Bizarrely happened to switch TV through SBS and they had a thing on about the Noble Indigene again.. at the end of it this White guy was talking about this painting someone did long ago, and saying what a wonderful representation it was of how things were when all 'our people' (his White words) got together.... big party, eh..... in the far right there is a woman down on her back near a tree with a bloke standing over her with his arm raised and about to strike, and holding what looks like a cleaver.... or maybe native equivalent...

I guess he missed that one... just a Noble Courting Ritual...

Do ANY of these people know what they are talking about?  This idea that all the troubles of the Cheers come from disruption of their ancient culture is based on what?  Somebody's surmise a few years ago... and now we are supposed to accept it - with zero evidence - as the sole reason they are dysfunctional and can't get on in the real world?

The ones I know here have businesses and such and jobs many of them.....

Boris wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 1:22pm:


Tribal warfare was always there, where-ever hunter-gatherer tribes existed in the world.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 1:23pm:


No one is denying that, tribal warfare is part of the history of mankind, yet the violence happening  internally today in the remnants of h-g cultures  coping with the destruction of their original culture,is more  like the domestic violence we see in non back cultures today  

So regardless of culturally obsolete/abandoned ceremony, don't look too hard in the mirror... domestic violence  - one white woman killed a week by a partner, in Oz. 

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Reminds me of a remarkable painting in Beauvais cathedral showing a woman with a raised axe about to decapitate one of the French king's soldiers who was storming the ramparts of Beauvais, in the 13th century...

[Europe's cathedrals are remarkable for the public art displaying blood and guts depictions of martyrdom etc in Christian mythology....like the OT itself, definitely not suitable for children....sensibilities apparently weren't so 'delicate' in the Middle Ages when these paintings were produced].   

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Like I said, don't look too closely in the mirror....

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There is so much confusion about culture on all sides, because all men are so blindly committed to culture

There's the answer to your question, as I already patiently explained... but you ignored it, or didn't bother to read it, or are too ideologically blind to comprehend it. 

Any attempt to idealize ANY culture is hopelessly flawed.

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Already explained many times; you are uneducable.

The original culture destroyed by superior arms; the remnants looking around for answers, aided and abetted by others who think all culture is noble.

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Yes, proving societal dysfunction is eradicable, since individual members of a dysfunctional community can find employment.

So urge the government to get rid of systemic unemployment resuting from the current dominant TINA/NAIRU neoliberal ideology, so everyone can succeed, to close the gap.

Frank is correct.. how much more of a divide could there be than having a separate parliament that even the prime minister says would take a courageous government to refuse... and that of 3% of the population and their tame lap dogs??

VOTE NO FOR A SANE FUTURE!

Aside:-

"They are treated fairly enough that this year a play - At What Cost?, by Tasmanian Aboriginal Artist of the Year Nathan Maynard - was produced criticising the growing phenomenon of white people identifying as Aboriginal in order to be fashionable and to claim benefits. The star of the play, Luke Carroll, told the Sydney Morning Herald:

A lot of people are coming out of the woodwork claiming to be Aboriginal. I know of people here in Sydney who haven’t grown up Aboriginal and all of a sudden, their kids are identifying as Aboriginal. They are attending the schools, getting the jobs and taking away opportunities from people who have grown up Aboriginal... It’s a growing problem.

Mr Maynard described these people as “tick-a-boxes” and “claimers”. The phenomenon parallels the emergence of so-called “race-switchers” in the United States."

Symbolic claptrap that will change nothing.