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Question: Will you vote for a separate Aboriginal Voice in Parliament?

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NO    
  27 (71.1%)




Total votes: 38
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Reply #630 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 7:46am:
mothra wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 6:45am:
I don't think anyone's ever called you a racist Horseboy.

What we call you is a simpleton.

A virtue-signalling simpleton at that.



Mothra,
you're the greatest virtue signaler here.
I would call you a sanctimonious windbag who
thinks you're morally superior to everyone else.

well said Bobby-
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Reply #631 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 6:19am:
leftie intellectuals like bwian are the worst enemy of the aborigine.

they tell him he is a victim and needs to wait for apology and recognition.
they tell him, in effect, the trajectory of his life is at the effect not the cause
they disempower him
victim thinking leads to apathy, pain, negative emotions and disconnection from source energy.
instead of being connected to the beauty all around him, the beauty of nature which was always there for him
the beauty of walkabout.


Scoot, reconciliation requires the truth to be told of what happened for healing to begin.

No more cover-ups, no more "I didn't do it so I don't care", open and truthful acknowledgment of what happened is the only way.

We have made strides, but there is so much to go.

Acknowledging the truth does not make someone a victim.

This is what a disingenuous piece of s
hit
would attempt to make reality and feign genuine concern over to twist the narrative.

We truly are better off without you.
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Reply #632 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 5:20pm
 
I think 'the truth' about what happened has been told time after time... where is there any need to go on and on about it and blame everyone who - again - had nothing to do with it?

Time to move on - the old ways and the old days are gone - and no - like some emperor of old - you cannot stand on a hill and say you lay claim to all that you can see... those days of historical imperialism are long gone... sorry 'bout that.  That includes Indigenous Imperialism - this standing on a high hill and saying all that land you see is yours.... it doesn't work that way.
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Reply #633 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 6:33pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 6:19am:
leftie intellectuals like bwian are the worst enemy of the aborigine.

they tell him he is a victim and needs to wait for apology and recognition.
they tell him, in effect, the trajectory of his life is at the effect not the cause
they disempower him
victim thinking leads to apathy, pain, negative emotions and disconnection from source energy.
instead of being connected to the beauty all around him, the beauty of nature which was always there for him
the beauty of walkabout.


Scoot, reconciliation requires the truth to be told of what happened for healing to begin.

No more cover-ups, no more "I didn't do it so I don't care", open and truthful acknowledgment of what happened is the only way.

We have made strides, but there is so much to go.

Acknowledging the truth does not make someone a victim.

This is what a disingenuous piece of s
hit
would attempt to make reality and feign genuine concern over to twist the narrative.

We truly are better off without you.



In what way is ANYTHING covered up about Aborigines?
Do illustrate your point. Repeating empty puffery and slogans is not 'truth telling'.

Tell us what is covered up?

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Reply #634 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm
 
https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/timeline.php

One thing missing from all this is WHY these massacres took place - most were in retaliation to killings of Colonials or unprovoked attacks ... you need to read the details of each incident to see why ... though I expect many will be happy to just view the disproportionate number of Indigenous killed ... and not to know the reason why ....

To look at the reasons why is to betray the narrative required to promote Aboriginal Supremacism and Sovereignty over all they survey.... ...
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Reply #635 - Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:15pm
 
Kiss of death for the Yes side:



Mr Turnbull on Monday back-tracked on his former position as prime minister when he and his cabinet rejected the voice. At the time, he said a voice was not “desirable” and would “inevitably become seen as a third chamber of parliament”.

Mr Turnbull now says he would vote in favour of the voice at the upcoming referendum despite conceding it would still “be politically very challenging” to pass a law that the voice opposed.
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Reply #636 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:20am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 6:19am:
leftie intellectuals like bwian are the worst enemy of the aborigine.

they tell him he is a victim and needs to wait for apology and recognition.
they tell him, in effect, the trajectory of his life is at the effect not the cause
they disempower him
victim thinking leads to apathy, pain, negative emotions and disconnection from source energy.
instead of being connected to the beauty all around him, the beauty of nature which was always there for him
the beauty of walkabout.


Scoot, reconciliation requires the truth to be told of what happened for healing to begin.

No more cover-ups, no more "I didn't do it so I don't care", open and truthful acknowledgment of what happened is the only way.

We have made strides, but there is so much to go.

Acknowledging the truth does not make someone a victim.

This is what a disingenuous piece of s
hit
would attempt to make reality and feign genuine concern over to twist the narrative.

We truly are better off without you.


sorry but i am very passionate about this and i have aboriginal relatives and they are  awesome awesome kids.

imagine how much benefit city kids would derive from spending a week or two every year living a traditional aboriginal life.

barefoot, minimal clothes, sleeping on the ground, putting up with the rain and mosquitoes.

no wifi, no instagram, no maccas.

would that not be life changing .
would that not go some way to removing the anxiety and entitlement and "me,me,me" overthinking of those "stuck in their heads"


instead we do the reverse.

we say the "morally virtuous" thing to do is to have equal numbers of aboriginal accountants and lawyers.
like that is the "superior " lifestyle
like thats more "meaningful and ignites the human spirit"
its insane.

the aborigine is a pawn , being used by people on 120 k a year, living in canberra, working in the government to demolish the happiness of the aborigine.

like having every aborigine  sitting in an office like the other millions of "batterries in the mattrix" is a good thing.

absolute cognitive dissonance.

we need an aboriginal constitution alright

3 words.

"leave me alone."

everything the virtuous "big government" morons touch turns to crap.

governments run 3 vital sectors
education, law and order and health in the main.

and what do we see?

50 % of teachers on a survey yesterday "hate their jobs"

morale in healthcare , in doctors and nurses is at an all time low.
(though i note morale in the pfizer accounting department is doing quite well).

"defund the police" is the cry from the elites. they cant employ police in New York,
our own police force has record levels of stress leave.


seriously.


we, the people are better off wothout "you" skippy.

educate yourself
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Reply #637 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:32am
 
I see you don't believe that quotas are the answer, aqua?  OK ....
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Reply #638 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:53am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm:
https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/timeline.php

One thing missing from all this is WHY these massacres took place - most were in retaliation to killings of Colonials or unprovoked attacks ... you need to read the details of each incident to see why ... though I expect many will be happy to just view the disproportionate number of Indigenous killed ... and not to know the reason why ....

To look at the reasons why is to betray the narrative required to promote Aboriginal Supremacism and Sovereignty over all they survey.... ...



Of all the dangerous lies, this is perhaps the most offensive.

Shame on you.

Although i know full well this post will never land. I'm talking to a pigeon.
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Reply #639 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:00am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:53am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm:
https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/timeline.php

One thing missing from all this is WHY these massacres took place - most were in retaliation to killings of Colonials or unprovoked attacks ... you need to read the details of each incident to see why ... though I expect many will be happy to just view the disproportionate number of Indigenous killed ... and not to know the reason why ....

To look at the reasons why is to betray the narrative required to promote Aboriginal Supremacism and Sovereignty over all they survey.... ...



Of all the dangerous lies, this is perhaps the most offensive.

Shame on you.

Although i know full well this post will never land. I'm talking to a pigeon.


Indeed it is you who are dangerous - you never even looked at the link, did you, let alone clicked on the blue name of the action for details?  Nothing unusual.... too dangerous for your shaky world.

"you need to read the details of each incident to see why" - where is there a lie in that? Are you admitting to focusing on only one aspect of each incident?  Are you declaring the concept of Aboriginal Neo-colonialism, Supremacism and Sovereignty over all to be lies?

Please explain?  CAN you explain?  "Always was - always will be - ABORIGINAL Land!"... Now I don't know how that pans out for you, but it sounds mighty like someone standing on a high point when there were buggar all people there and assuming that as far as they could see was their personal property.

Things are different now..... and nobody needs a vast tract of land they walked over to hunt Macca's etc.

It's 2022, in case you forgot again...



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Reply #640 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:14am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:00am:
mothra wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:53am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm:
https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/timeline.php

One thing missing from all this is WHY these massacres took place - most were in retaliation to killings of Colonials or unprovoked attacks ... you need to read the details of each incident to see why ... though I expect many will be happy to just view the disproportionate number of Indigenous killed ... and not to know the reason why ....

To look at the reasons why is to betray the narrative required to promote Aboriginal Supremacism and Sovereignty over all they survey.... ...



Of all the dangerous lies, this is perhaps the most offensive.

Shame on you.

Although i know full well this post will never land. I'm talking to a pigeon.


Indeed it is you who are dangerous - you never even looked at the link, did you, let alone clicked on the blue name of the action for details?  Nothing unusual.... too dangerous for your shaky world.

"you need to read the details of each incident to see why" - where is there a lie in that? Are you admitting to focusing on only one aspect of each incident?  Are you declaring the concept of Aboriginal Neo-colonialism, Supremacism and Sovereignty over all to be lies?

Please explain?  CAN you explain?  "Always was - always will be - ABORIGINAL Land!"... Now I don't know how that pans out for you, but it sounds mighty like someone standing on a high point when there were buggar all people there and assuming that as far as they could see was their personal property.

Things are different now..... and nobody needs a vast tract of land they walked over to hunt Macca's etc.

It's 2022, in case you forgot again...





Oh i looked at the link ... but i think i saw a very different thing to what you aws.

I saw evidence of how a people living in peace were INVADED and upon suc;h  occasions where they struck back, or even defended themselves, they were obliterated.

I know, to you this means they asked for it. That's because you're a racist. I keep telling you that.

You are so far gone that you would even erase 200+: years of absolute tyranny against these people because you resent them sticking their heads over the bunker.
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;It's not enough for you to just vote 'no' ..you have to invalidate and white wash everything. Cast yourself as the noble conqueror. You utter pillock.


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Reply #641 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:16am
 
So looking at the very first one - exploring a river is 'invading'?  You can't invade where there is no government structure.... and times change, girlie....

You'll get a lot further keeping a civil tongue in your head... look what happened to Lefty.... identical twin of yours was he?

I can't be a 'racist' because long ago some foolhardy local threw a spear at someone and got shot in return... nothing racist about history... it just is.

It's now 2022 .... the 'invaded' are the tiny minority.
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Reply #642 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:23am
 
Demanding a separate voice in government at all levels and creating a shadow government for your exclusive use is hardly 'sticking their heads over the bunker' ..... you need to read the rhetoric... we don't need that third chamber of government that Turnbull mentioned..... and all are equal in the Constitution now.... your mates have had full citizenship rights since 1967... 55 years... stop crying....

Nobody is doing anything to them these days except themselves.
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Reply #643 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:24am
 
"The Aborigines asked for it"

You've heard it here, folks.
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Reply #644 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:28am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:24am:
"The Aborigines asked for it"

You've heard it here, folks.


Wow!  Where did that come from?  Where are you in the universe at this time, mothra?  Come back to reality - it misses you - every damned day...

How's that latest casualty list from The Alice for the Long Wet Weekend coming along? The price of freedom to drink is eternal trouble..... the media seem to be playing it close to the chest....

As for Mussos - well ... that individual who tried to kill his ex in WA tried to shoot up the Canberra airport... they do get around.
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