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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1080 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 5:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 5:31pm:

They'll have to call a new erection in two years, Bobby, like the constitution says.

The FBI don't bury stories. They're not the fake news. They leave that to Tucker Carlson and other Deep State media operatives.

The real FAKE NEWS here is somebody saying Mr Trump didn't win the 2020 erection, and blaming the FBI.

You?

Trump is right - call a new election NOW.

They can't, dear. Erections are held on November 5 every four years.

So unfair, no?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1081 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 6:52pm:

scope wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 6:30pm:

Trump is right - call a new election.

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Bobby, This is classic Trump telling lies again, his supporters are so dimwitted they believe everything he utters.
Never mind that the FBI raid found what was stolen, never mind that Trump has admitted he had stolen documents in his possession (in a court filed paper no less, dumb kunt)

Trump is shitting himself, because he has run out of options and his bluffs only work on his feeble minded supporters.
I wonder just who he planned to sell those secrets too?
Because thats why he had 330 secret documents (oh Hillary only had 3 top secret emails on her sever but according to Trump she should have been locked up and the key thrown away)

Trump,he made america the laughing stock of the world and proved just how dumb some Americans (and others) really are.

The Biden Laptop story was hidden for political reasons.
What else was hidden?

The Trump raid. The FBI hid that one too, dear. Mr Trump spilled the beans.

So unfair, ya?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1082 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:34pm

scope wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 6:30pm:

Trump is right - call a new election.

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Bobby, This is classic Trump telling lies again, his supporters are so dimwitted they believe everything he utters.
Never mind that the FBI raid found what was stolen, never mind that Trump has admitted he had stolen documents in his possession (in a court filed paper no less, dumb kunt)

Trump is shitting himself, because he has run out of options and his bluffs only work on his feeble minded supporters.
I wonder just who he planned to sell those secrets too?
Because thats why he had 330 secret documents (oh Hillary only had 3 top secret emails on her sever but according to Trump she should have been locked up and the key thrown away)

Trump,he made america the laughing stock of the world and proved just how dumb some Americans (and others) really are.

Sure, but Bobby's just saying. That is his right in a free country, no?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101225 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1083 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:37pm Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:34pm: Sure, but Bobby's just saying. That is his right in a free country, no? It's the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40380 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1084 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm Those documents were not Trumps property. He did not create them, he had no IP over them. He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.
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Reply #1085 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Those documents were not Trumps property.
He did not create them, he had no IP over them.

He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.

He was allowed to take them as long as
they were securely stored which they were.
The Govt. knew where they were and
even what locks and security protected them.
I don't know why he still had them with Govt. knowledge
so long after he lost the presidency.
Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

I think it's just a political witch hunt.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101225 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1086 - Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm flip
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1087 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 12:07am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Those documents were not Trumps property.
He did not create them, he had no IP over them.

He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.

He was allowed to take them as long as
they were securely stored which they were.
The Govt. knew where they were and
even what locks and security protected them.
I don't know why he still had them with Govt. knowledge
so long after he lost the presidency.
Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

I think it's just a political witch hunt.

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He was allowed to take them

No he definitely was not allowed to remove them from the building. The day he was no longer president he had no right to access them at all without making the proper requests with a specific reason.

Having one single document would have anyone else arrested on the spot. It happened in 2022, A woman went to prison over 1 document where the correct process was not followed with some notes she had taken.

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Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

The government had been trying to get them back for 18 months.

They talked to him and after 12 months got back 12 boxes. They were told that was all of them.

The found that there were still documents missing so asked again - more negotiation and the got a few more back. There were still documents missing. They subpoenaed the missing documents and visited again. They recovered a few more boxes.

Then they found still more boxes missing. The got the video tape to the storage room and found that boxes were being re located.

After 18 months Trump had refused to return all the documents. In what had been recovered top secret and critically dangerous documents were included.

The FBI had exhausted every method to recover the docs. Trump had obstructed the recovery and moved docs to hide them.
When the search was done they found documents in at least 4 locations including Trumps office none of these locations were secure.

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1088 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:23am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Those documents were not Trumps property.
He did not create them, he had no IP over them.

He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.

He was allowed to take them as long as
they were securely stored which they were.
The Govt. knew where they were and
even what locks and security protected them.
I don't know why he still had them with Govt. knowledge
so long after he lost the presidency.
Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

I think it's just a political witch hunt.

The "government" had been requesting those records back for two years, dear.

Are you blaming the "government" for knowing he had them?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73918 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1089 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:26am Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm: He was allowed to take them as long as WRONG
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Reply #1090 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:36am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 12:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Those documents were not Trumps property.
He did not create them, he had no IP over them.

He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.

He was allowed to take them as long as
they were securely stored which they were.
The Govt. knew where they were and
even what locks and security protected them.
I don't know why he still had them with Govt. knowledge
so long after he lost the presidency.
Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

I think it's just a political witch hunt.

Quote:

He was allowed to take them

No he definitely was not allowed to remove them from the building. The day he was no longer president he had no right to access them at all without making the proper requests with a specific reason.

Having one single document would have anyone else arrested on the spot. It happened in 2022, A woman went to prison over 1 document where the correct process was not followed with some notes she had taken.

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Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

The government had been trying to get them back for 18 months.

They talked to him and after 12 months got back 12 boxes. They were told that was all of them.

The found that there were still documents missing so asked again - more negotiation and the got a few more back. There were still documents missing. They subpoenaed the missing documents and visited again. They recovered a few more boxes.

Then they found still more boxes missing. The got the video tape to the storage room and found that boxes were being re located.

After 18 months Trump had refused to return all the documents. In what had been recovered top secret and critically dangerous documents were included.

The FBI had exhausted every method to recover the docs. Trump had obstructed the recovery and moved docs to hide them.
When the search was done they found documents in at least 4 locations including Trumps office none of these locations were secure.

You sound like you're embellishing the story. Undecided

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73918 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1091 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:39am Bobby. wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:36am: You sound like you're embellishing the story. and yet every word is true
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94597 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1092 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:54am LOCK HER UP !!!
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1093 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:59am

John Smith wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm:

He was allowed to take them as long as

WRONG

Now now, JS, Bobby's come round on this. Mr Trump - and Hillary - were perfectly entitled to store government records, either in the basement at Mar a Lago, or in Hillary's private email server.

Hillary was found to have 22 classified pieces of information on her private server. Mr Trump had a few hundred thousand. He agreed to put a lock on the basement door, so it's all good.

What's wrong with that?

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Reply #1094 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 11:02am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 12:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 1^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Those documents were not Trumps property.
He did not create them, he had no IP over them.

He was an employee for the US govt who took assets that were not his.

He was allowed to take them as long as
they were securely stored which they were.
The Govt. knew where they were and
even what locks and security protected them.
I don't know why he still had them with Govt. knowledge
so long after he lost the presidency.
Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

I think it's just a political witch hunt.

Quote:

He was allowed to take them

No he definitely was not allowed to remove them from the building. The day he was no longer president he had no right to access them at all without making the proper requests with a specific reason.

Having one single document would have anyone else arrested on the spot. It happened in 2022, A woman went to prison over 1 document where the correct process was not followed with some notes she had taken.

Quote:

Is it Trump's fault or the Govts fault?

The government had been trying to get them back for 18 months.

They talked to him and after 12 months got back 12 boxes. They were told that was all of them.

The found that there were still documents missing so asked again - more negotiation and the got a few more back. There were still documents missing. They subpoenaed the missing documents and visited again. They recovered a few more boxes.

Then they found still more boxes missing. The got the video tape to the storage room and found that boxes were being re located.

After 18 months Trump had refused to return all the documents. In what had been recovered top secret and critically dangerous documents were included.

The FBI had exhausted every method to recover the docs. Trump had obstructed the recovery and moved docs to hide them.
When the search was done they found documents in at least 4 locations including Trumps office none of these locations were secure.

I know, Dnarever, but they can't do that, it's harassment. Mr Trump's supporters have every right to GO WILD, no?

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