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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1260 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 12:26pm:

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Trump is untouchable.

The FBI just removed 11,000 government documents from his basement, Bobby. They now have a criminal InVeStIgAtIoN.

Add this to the New York tax law suit, the criminal investigation in Georgia, and he's starting to look most touchable.

But I'm curious. Do you think he should be untouchable?

Do you think the law should not apply to elite politicians?

Why or why not?

A simple hanging meme will not suffice.

When you hang a man you better look at him.
There is no one in America prepared to hang the Don.

Don't want to say, eh?

No worries. When Dear Leader gets done, you can jump up and down and say oh, so unfair.

But you won't ever be able to articulate why.

Cunning, no?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1262 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 1:32pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 11:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Trump is untouchable -

I mean - he went bankrupt 5 times -
he lost everyone's money 5 times - mostly bankers and builders -
and in between those times he still managed to get
more money from more investors.
Would anyone you know lend money to a bankrupt person? -
in some cases they knew he had already been bankrupt 4 times
and yet they lent him money for his 5th bankruptcy!
You can't make this up - it's a real story.

LOL... so you seriously reckon that being bankrupted six time is a bizarre
badge of honour. And that it indicates a superior business acumen? You
must have some funny ideas about finance Bobby.

Trump’s businesses now owe $1.3 billion, or nearly $200 million more than
they did when he left office. He also has an estimated $738 million of debt
coming due over three years, up to 2014.

Trump's also fallen off the Forbes 400 list of America’s richest people, for the
first time in 25 years—due to a $400 million shortfall. He was #71 on Forbes'
list in 2003; today he doesn't even make the cutoff point of 400th.

—As a money manager, Trump would possibly make a good checkout chick at Walmart . Grin

politics is about the "art of persuasion"

in terms of the skill of persuasion, trump is an elite level athlete.

how does this incredible man get away with things that mere mortals cannot

worth studying

Yes - he can even spin even 5 bankruptcies in his favor. Shocked

who else could do that bobby.

thats pretty difficult

lefties can post a few words of hate on a forum.

thats so lazy

thats so easy

lets see them

build a skyscraper in manhattan
start a university
start a wrestling federation
start a beauty pagent
get themselves into the white house.

they couldnt do it

too lazy

too mediocre

no self belief

all they are capable of is exploding with hate like an absess bursting .

compared to what the donald has achieved, they are really very sad individuals Cry

I know, right? Mr Trump's so awesome he started his own forum. Apparently he just posted 88 rants in two days.

Problem is, it's got so many white supremacist terrorists posting hate speech, Google won't put it on Play Store.

I wish I could read those 88 posts.

You?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1263 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

Johnnie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

Federal judge grants Trump's special master request to review Mar-a-Lago materials

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has granted former President Donald Trump's request for a special master to review documents seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago last month, temporarily stopping federal prosecutors from using those documents in their investigation into obstruction and mishandling of government secrets.

[...]

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/05/1120885510/doj-trump-special-master-judge

The Don is kicking Nancy's gangs ass.

Just so, Matty. He posted about her on his social media app.

Suck on that, Nancy. While you're playing at running the country, Mr Trump's at home posting hate rants on a forum nobody can read.

Who's the winner here?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1264 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 3:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 3:09pm:

Here we go: "Trump wins bid for review of seized FBI documents" Trump kicks ass, again. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/trump-wins-bid-for-review-of-seized-fbi...

Ridiculous decision being criticised broadly in the USA. She basis it on there being some extraordinary aspect because it is an ex President. Fuqqin hell...what is extraordinary is that the weight of available evidence shows that this prick stole Government documents and was obstructive in having them returned.

DOJ should immediately appeal especially as the decision purports to put on hold the DOJ investigation of Humpty doing wrong in taking the documents.

I expected her to do nothing...rule the motion as moot given the FBI/DOJ would have already finished poring all over what they had.

Biden could intervene and declare a waiver of all executive privilege, but I doubt he will do that.

But isn't there a principle in law of client attorney privilege?

Many of those documents were from Trump's lawyers.

Link?

Sure:

Some records seized at Mar-a-Lago may be protected by client-attorney privilege

August 29, 202211:54 AM ET

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/29/1119918904/some-records-seized-mar-a-lago-may-be-...

Do you have a link to the 'filing?'

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1265 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 3:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 3:09pm:

Here we go: "Trump wins bid for review of seized FBI documents" Trump kicks ass, again. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/trump-wins-bid-for-review-of-seized-fbi...

Ridiculous decision being criticised broadly in the USA. She basis it on there being some extraordinary aspect because it is an ex President. Fuqqin hell...what is extraordinary is that the weight of available evidence shows that this prick stole Government documents and was obstructive in having them returned.

DOJ should immediately appeal especially as the decision purports to put on hold the DOJ investigation of Humpty doing wrong in taking the documents.

I expected her to do nothing...rule the motion as moot given the FBI/DOJ would have already finished poring all over what they had.

Biden could intervene and declare a waiver of all executive privilege, but I doubt he will do that.

But isn't there a principle in law of client attorney privilege?

Many of those documents were from Trump's lawyers.

Link?

Sure:

Some records seized at Mar-a-Lago may be protected by client-attorney privilege

August 29, 202211:54 AM ET

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/29/1119918904/some-records-seized-mar-a-lago-may-be-...

Not if Mr Trump declassified them, Bobby.

Government records aren't protected by client-attorney privilege, dear.

So what's it going to be? Mr Trump's illegally storing classified government material in a hotel basement?

Or he declassified his own legal records for all to read?

Thoughts?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1266 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:02pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Not if Mr Trump declassified them, Bobby.

Government records aren't protected by client-attorney privilege, dear.

So what's it going to be? Mr Trump's illegally storing classified government material in a hotel basement?

Or he declassified his own legal records for all to read?

Thoughts?

Trump has the best lawyers.
Did you think he has only a duty solicitor?
They know what to do.

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1267 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:04pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Sure:

Some records seized at Mar-a-Lago may be protected by client-attorney privilege

August 29, 202211:54 AM ET

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/29/1119918904/some-records-seized-mar-a-lago-may-be-...

Do you have a link to the 'filing?'

No - Trump has his lawyers working on it.

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1268 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Not if Mr Trump declassified them, Bobby.

Government records aren't protected by client-attorney privilege, dear.

So what's it going to be? Mr Trump's illegally storing classified government material in a hotel basement?

Or he declassified his own legal records for all to read?

Thoughts?

Trump has the best lawyers.
Did you think he has only a duty solicitor?
They know what to do.

Sure, like the idiots Sidney Powell and Rooted Rudi, both in strife with professional regulators.

I reckon any Lawyer worth his salt would not touch Trump but if they did, they'd demand a huge upfront payment before lifting a finger.

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1269 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:15pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Yes - he can even spin even 5 bankruptcies in his favor. Shocked

who else could do that bobby.

thats pretty difficult

lefties can post a few words of hate on a forum.

thats so lazy

thats so easy

lets see them

build a skyscraper in manhattan
start a university
start a wrestling federation
start a beauty pagent
get themselves into the white house.

they couldnt do it

too lazy

too mediocre

no self belief

all they are capable of is exploding with hate like an absess bursting .

compared to what the donald has achieved, they are really very sad individuals Cry

They couldn't do it - Trump creates - he doesn't destroy.

thats why they hate him

the left chip away and chip away hoping that a massive fracturing will eventually happen

heres one at work on a successful civilisation Cry

Here he is at Dr Oz's campaign rally, dear, busily creating:

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On Saturday night in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump called the president of the United States “an enemy of the state.” This fiery accusation was likely fueled by comments Biden made in a speech on Thursday: “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.”

Trump further described Biden’s speech on Thursday at Independence Hall as “the most vicious, hateful, and divisive speech ever delivered by an American president.”

Addressing the FBI search of his Florida estate, Trump called the Justice Department “vicious monsters” who executed a “shameful raid and break-in of my home in Mar-a-Lago.” He also called the search “one of the most shocking abuses of power by any administration in American history.”

Possibly the most outrageous claims Trump made at the rally were about John Fetterman, the lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania and Dr. Mehmet Oz’s rival for a Senate seat. “Fetterman supports taxpayer-funded drug dens and the complete decriminalization of illegal drugs, including heroin, cocaine, crystal meth, and ultra lethal fentanyl. And by the way, he takes them himself,” Trump said.

https://www.vanityfair.com/favicon.ico

Here he is on Truth Social, talking about himself in the third person:

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So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn’t, ‘Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election'.

This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!

https://trump.news/2022-08-29-trump-calls-for-new-election-to-be-held.html#

I can keep going through all his recent speeches and posts, but I'm not going to find anything creative, you know that.

Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong, no?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1270 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:13pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Not if Mr Trump declassified them, Bobby.

Government records aren't protected by client-attorney privilege, dear.

So what's it going to be? Mr Trump's illegally storing classified government material in a hotel basement?

Or he declassified his own legal records for all to read?

Thoughts?

Trump has the best lawyers.
Did you think he has only a duty solicitor?
They know what to do.

Sure, like the idiots Sidney Powell and Rooted Rudi, both in strife with professional regulators.

I reckon any Lawyer worth his salt would not touch Trump but if they did, they'd demand a huge upfront payment before lifting a finger.

Trump boasted in the last week or so that his assets are worth US$7 billion
so I assume he paid his lawyers up front if they asked for that?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1271 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 1:32pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 11:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Trump is untouchable -

I mean - he went bankrupt 5 times -
he lost everyone's money 5 times - mostly bankers and builders -
and in between those times he still managed to get
more money from more investors.
Would anyone you know lend money to a bankrupt person? -
in some cases they knew he had already been bankrupt 4 times
and yet they lent him money for his 5th bankruptcy!
You can't make this up - it's a real story.

LOL... so you seriously reckon that being bankrupted six time is a bizarre
badge of honour. And that it indicates a superior business acumen? You
must have some funny ideas about finance Bobby.

Trump’s businesses now owe $1.3 billion, or nearly $200 million more than
they did when he left office. He also has an estimated $738 million of debt
coming due over three years, up to 2014.

Trump's also fallen off the Forbes 400 list of America’s richest people, for the
first time in 25 years—due to a $400 million shortfall. He was #71 on Forbes'
list in 2003; today he doesn't even make the cutoff point of 400th.

—As a money manager, Trump would possibly make a good checkout chick at Walmart . Grin

politics is about the "art of persuasion"

in terms of the skill of persuasion, trump is an elite level athlete.

how does this incredible man get away with things that mere mortals cannot

worth studying

Yes - he can even spin even 5 bankruptcies in his favor. Shocked

who else could do that bobby.

thats pretty difficult

lefties can post a few words of hate on a forum.

thats so lazy

thats so easy

lets see them

build a skyscraper in manhattan
start a university
start a wrestling federation
start a beauty pagent
get themselves into the white house.

they couldnt do it

too lazy

too mediocre

no self belief

all they are capable of is exploding with hate like an absess bursting .

compared to what the donald has achieved, they are really very sad individuals Cry

I know, right? Mr Trump's so awesome he started his own forum. Apparently he just posted 88 rants in two days.

Problem is, it's got so many white supremacist terrorists posting hate speech, Google won't put it on Play Store.

I wish I could read those 88 posts.

You?

trump would have a social media manager

he's probably out golfing with awesome people or in the jacuzzi with babes and he just fires off a thought bubble and some employee posts it.

thats a very different scenario to a leftie sitting in front of a keyboard, alone with his pent up rage and thinking his posts are going to change the world Cry

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73918 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1272 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:15pm aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:13pm: trump would have a social media manager they've been doing a pretty poo job of managing his social media to date
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #1273 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Not if Mr Trump declassified them, Bobby.

Government records aren't protected by client-attorney privilege, dear.

So what's it going to be? Mr Trump's illegally storing classified government material in a hotel basement?

Or he declassified his own legal records for all to read?

Thoughts?

Trump has the best lawyers.
Did you think he has only a duty solicitor?
They know what to do.

Sorry, Bobby, are you suggesting Mr Trump's lawyers will get him off a crime?

Which one? AG Barr thinks declassifying boxes of records is a bigger crime than stealing them to begin with.

Do you concur?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73918 Gender:	Re: Trump's house is raided. Reply #1274 - Sep 6^th, 2022 at 6:17pm Quote: So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn’t, ‘Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election'. so now he's saying he didn't have more votes despite arguing otherwise since the election?
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