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Question: Who'll go to prison first?

Donald J Trump    
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Rudy Giuliani    
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They'll go in together, and share a bunk    
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Reply #435 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:31pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...




https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/13/the-justice-department-knew-t...


Did the Justice Department Already Know That No Classified Docs Were at Mar-a-Lago?

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #436 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #437 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:38pm
 
FBI men sniffed Melania's panties.
Trump is an alpha male -
he's not going to take this lying down -
he'll be as angry as the Hulkster:


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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #438 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:51pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...


And all of them kept in vaults managed by the National Archives, dear.

Quote:
"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA)," the statement says. "NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area, where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration."


https://people.com/politics/fact-check-did-barack-obama-illegally-take-30-millio...

Deep State, innit.

But I'm curious. Are you suggesting there might be something wrong with taking boxes of top secret government documents, keeping them in the basement of a golf club, and refusing to give them back, two years after leaving office?

That's a bit unfair, Matty. I mean, what if there's stuff in there you don't want anyone looking at? That's private, right?

Or what if you want to sell them off to the Saudis or something? We all need to put food on the table, no?

Look, I suggest you try to be a little more respectful to our political elites. Mr Trump has feelings too, you know. So he knocked off a few thousand government records. Big deal. You'd do the same thing in his position, no?

And don't play all that legalistic bullshit. Mr Trump might have made it a felony offence, but he was just making a point, okay? He wasn't suggesting people actually get prosecuted for it, he was just saying.

You know, like LOCK HER UP. It's just something fun to say. Mr Trump never actually meant anything by it, no?
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #439 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:53pm
 
LOCK HER UP      LOCK HER UP     LOCK HER UP
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #440 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect


It's just rude, to be honest. Look, Matty is perfectly free to complain about Hillary and Hussein Obama, no one has a problem with that. But I do feel that suggesting there's something wrong with hiding top secret government records from the authorities is going way too far.

Mr Trump should be free to provide whatever records he likes, right? Who are we to say what should be handed over to the National Archives? If Mr Trump says they're safely locked away in his beach club, I think we need to accept him at his word, right?

Do you have a problem with that, Matty, or would you prefer to keep sabotaging Mr Trump's defense?
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #441 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
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Bobby Hunter is being investigated over his taxes. He borrower a few million to pay the tax. You may know this but you pay more tax than Trump does. He reportedly paid about $750 total tax the last few years and before that the number was $0.

Trump was also not charged with obstruction of justice even with 10 cases meticulously listed.

The didn't go after Trump for obvious breaches to the Emoluments Clause.

In short for everything on your list Trump and the Trump crime family have not been gone after over

about 10 times as many.

You do not really think that they can just pretend to not notice theft of top secret documents or running an insurrection?

They have no idea how many copies may have been made or who has been given access to see them.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #442 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:22pm:




Bobby Hunter is being investigated of his taxes. He borrower a few million to pay the tax. You may know this but you pay more tax than Trump does. He reportedly paid about $750 total tax the last few years and before that the number was $0.

Trump was also not charged with obstruction of justice even with 10 cases meticulously listed.

The didn't go after Trump for obvious breaches to the Emoluments Clause.

In short for everything on your list Trump and the Trump crime family have not been gone after over

about 10 times as many.

You do not really think that they can just pretend to not notice theft of top secret documents.

They have no idea how many copies may have been made or who has been given access to see them.



But what about Obama?
Don't you see a double standard here?
Don't you see politics at play?

here:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #443 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #444 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:22pm:




Bobby Hunter is being investigated of his taxes. He borrower a few million to pay the tax. You may know this but you pay more tax than Trump does. He reportedly paid about $750 total tax the last few years and before that the number was $0.

Trump was also not charged with obstruction of justice even with 10 cases meticulously listed.

The didn't go after Trump for obvious breaches to the Emoluments Clause.

In short for everything on your list Trump and the Trump crime family have not been gone after over

about 10 times as many.

You do not really think that they can just pretend to not notice theft of top secret documents.

They have no idea how many copies may have been made or who has been given access to see them.



But what about Obama?
Don't you see a double standard here?
Don't you see politics at play?

here:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...


The national archives say that your conspiracy theory is BS.


Quote:
National Archives rejects Trump's claim that Obama took 33 million pages of classified documents from the White House and insists they are in a secure facility in Chicago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106993/National-Archives-rejects-Trum...
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Reply #445 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:37pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.


They have 20 boxes of evidence and plenty of it is in various levels of security status but all had been stolen by Trump. There is zero ambiguity about that.

The things listed that they were looking for is what they recovered. This would be many thousands of documents.

The index lists on the original 15 boxes returned went over 100 pages, this recovery of stolen documents is larger.

The case if there is one will be called "The United States of America V Donald J Trump"
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #446 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:51pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:37pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.


They have 20 boxes of evidence and plenty of it is in various levels of security status but all had been stolen by Trump. There is zero ambiguity about that.

The things listed that they were looking for is what they recovered. This would be many thousands of documents.

The index lists on the original 15 boxes returned went over 100 pages, this recovery of stolen documents is larger.

The case if there is one will be called "The United States of America V Donald J Trump"

Fkkn hilarious, has that FBI panty sniffing guy dropped the "stolen TOP SECRET documents" allegations now.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #447 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 8:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:37pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.


They have 20 boxes of evidence and plenty of it is in various levels of security status but all had been stolen by Trump. There is zero ambiguity about that.

The things listed that they were looking for is what they recovered. This would be many thousands of documents.

The index lists on the original 15 boxes returned went over 100 pages, this recovery of stolen documents is larger.

The case if there is one will be called "The United States of America V Donald J Trump"


20 boxes? Yeah of toilet paper rolls 🧻 .
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Reply #448 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 8:21pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:51pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:37pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.


They have 20 boxes of evidence and plenty of it is in various levels of security status but all had been stolen by Trump. There is zero ambiguity about that.

The things listed that they were looking for is what they recovered. This would be many thousands of documents.

The index lists on the original 15 boxes returned went over 100 pages, this recovery of stolen documents is larger.

The case if there is one will be called "The United States of America V Donald J Trump"

Fkkn hilarious, has that FBI panty sniffing guy dropped the "stolen TOP SECRET documents" allegations now.


The warrant states 3 potential charges, they all look realistic.

Law 793 prevents unauthorised possession of national defence information, without mentioning whether the records are classified or not. It is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

The other laws, 2071 and 1519, make it illegal to conceal or destroy official US documents.

They are punishable by up to three and 20 years in prison respectively. Neither law requires the information in question to be classified.
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Reply #449 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 8:23pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:37pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy with Milania's panties on his head and the media that they found TOP SECRET documents relating to Atom bombs and codes etc because unfortunatly the evidence is TOP SECRET.


I know, right? Everyone will have to take the word of the FBI guy who carried out 20 boxes of documents, signed off by Mr Trump's lawyers, who watched the search on a live video link.

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Have you seen how many tons of documents Obama walked out the door with

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas...



Grin Grin Grin Grin

you need to try harder if you hope to deflect

It's bloody hilarious, The FBI guy has trump nailed with no evidence because it's TOP SECRET.


They have 20 boxes of evidence and plenty of it is in various levels of security status but all had been stolen by Trump. There is zero ambiguity about that.

The things listed that they were looking for is what they recovered. This would be many thousands of documents.

The index lists on the original 15 boxes returned went over 100 pages, this recovery of stolen documents is larger.

The case if there is one will be called "The United States of America V Donald J Trump"


20 boxes? Yeah of toilet paper rolls 🧻 .


It is very likely that the Trumps were indeed hoarding toilet paper as well. Good catch Lisa.
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