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Question: Who'll go to prison first?

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They'll go in together, and share a bunk    
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Reply #585 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:07pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.








Trump Lawyer Rudy Giuliani Confirmed as ‘Target’ of Georgia Investigation, ‘Is Now on Notice’ That He’s in Danger of Indictment

“Rudy is now on notice that the DA is examining the likelihood of bringing an indictment against him,” he said. “This notice allows Rudy to take that into consideration before his scheduled testimony, and to potentially invoke his Fifth Amendment rights as a result to protect himself. Being a target does not mean you will be indicted but it means it is highly likely.”

Be careful where you "tuck your shirt in" in prison, Rudy   Grin
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #586 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:07pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Hard to say, Matty. I hardly think you'd be declassifying Melania's unmentionables, dear.

I doubt you'd go declassifying anything remotely embarrassing either. Why else would you go to all the trouble of carting home 50 boxes of files to hide in the basement?

Obama took his, scanned and indexed them and handed them all over to the national archives to a good little ex-law professor.

Whatever do you think Dear Leader's trying to hide?

Seems like an awfully large number of documents to bury your golf handicap, no? 

I hope he didn't make any copies of nuclear bomb codes before he handed back the classified documents he walked out the door with, stolen.


I know, right? How dare Mr Trump get stung on the charge he signed into law as a felony offence?

So unfair, no?
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #587 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:08pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.






hehehe
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #588 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:27pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 4:56pm:
Nancy and the rest of them are starting to sh!t themselves as the midterm elections are just around the corner, this Swamp is gunna get drained.

"Next to the Second Amendment (the right to bear arms), Americans worship their Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches or seizure of their property."
They are playing with fire now.


They found stolen government documents and piles of them. He was asked to return then and Trump didn't They negotiated and Trump didn't return the stolen documents they subpoenaed them and Trump returned 15 boxes of Documents.

Trumps Lawyer signed a document saying that there were no more documents.

The FBI discovered that there were many more documents involved and asked for them - they were not returned.

The FBI subpoenaed the documents and didn't have them returned so they got a court order to go and recover the stolen government property.

Donald should do a significant amount of time for this.

If the FBI are to be criticised it would be the other way around. Any normal citizen holding onto such a stash of government documents would have been raided on day 1. This is heading for 2 years with no action taken on a criminal national security compromise till last week.





What about Obama?
Doesn't he still have 3 million documents?

Should Obama do a significant amount of time for that ?


The official Archive have confirmed that they have all the Obama documents. This claim was always BS.

Link


This was previously post number 444.


The national archives say that your conspiracy theory is BS.


Quote:
National Archives rejects Trump's claim that Obama took 33 million pages of classified documents from the White House and insists they are in a secure facility in Chicago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106993/National-Archives-rejects-Trum...
[/quote]

Note: the 33 million would be changing the decimal point on Hillary's email which is typical of Trump when making numbers up.

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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #589 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.




Fairly sure that the threat of going to prison for a long long time would have Rudy taking it seriously.

His actions seem to be difficult to deny since he has admitted to much of it and there is a lot of evidence that he broadcast on TV and the things he said in various court rooms. He did after all co-ord the fake electors, Had meetings with the republican politicians provided the process to register the fake electors etc. OH and none of this is legal.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #590 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.








Trump Lawyer Rudy Giuliani Confirmed as ‘Target’ of Georgia Investigation, ‘Is Now on Notice’ That He’s in Danger of Indictment

“Rudy is now on notice that the DA is examining the likelihood of bringing an indictment against him,” he said. “This notice allows Rudy to take that into consideration before his scheduled testimony, and to potentially invoke his Fifth Amendment rights as a result to protect himself. Being a target does not mean you will be indicted but it means it is highly likely.”

Be careful where you "tuck your shirt in: in prison, Rudy   Grin


Now now, Greggery, as the old boy so eloquently points out, Rudy is merely a "target" of this InVeStIgAtIoN. The old boy doesn't sound triggered or anything, oh no.

So, so unfair.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #591 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.




Fairly sure that the threat of going to prison for a long long time would have Rudy taking it seriously.

His actions seem to be difficult to deny since he has admitted to much of it and there is a lot of evidence that he broadcast on TV and the things he said in various court rooms. He did after all co-ord the fake electors, Had meetings with the republican politicians provided the process to register the fake electors etc. OH and none of this is legal.


It's not a case of if Rudy goes to prison, it's just a case of when.

They seem to be growing tired of his excuses, so there's a good chance he'll be eating turkey in a prison mess hall this Christmas.

...

And he might be the one who's stuffed.

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Reply #592 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:35pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:36pm:
scope wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:24pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 5:04pm:
[quote author=strewth link=1660003073/548#548 date=1660633000]Nancy and the rest of them are starting to sh!t themselves as the midterm elections are just around the corner, this Swamp is gunna get drained.

"Next to the Second Amendment (the right to bear arms), Americans worship their Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches or seizure of their property."
They are playing with fire now.


They found stolen government documents and piles of them. He was asked to return then and Trump didn't They negotiated and Trump didn't return the stolen documents they subpoenaed them and Trump returned 15 boxes of Documents.

Trumps Lawyer signed a document saying that there were no more documents.

The FBI discovered that there were many more documents involved and asked for them - they were not returned.

The FBI subpoenaed the documents and didn't have them returned so they got a court order to go and recover the stolen government property.

Donald should do a significant amount of time for this.

If the FBI are to be criticised it would be the other way around. Any normal citizen holding onto such a stash of government documents would have been raided on day 1. This is heading for 2 years with no action taken on a criminal national security compromise till last week.



So this could could go on for 10yrs or so before it goes to court, in the meantime after Nancy's Pigs raided Trumps home and violated the 4th Amendment everybody can see by now it's a political WITCH HUNT



Oh look another one that needs a diagram to masturbate.

So show us all your knowledge of US law, just how was Trump's 4th amendment rights violated?



Tis written Scope, seek and ye shall find.[/quote]

So thats a no then, you have no idea what you are talking about, got it.
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Reply #594 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:04pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
How does declassifying the documents make any difference to anything ?

Stealing Government documents is illegal be they classified or not, they still belong to the government and belong in the archive.




Correct.

The "declassified" nonsense is just a diversion.

Declassified or not, he broke the law.





Only allegedly, Greggery. If it was so bad, why is Mr Trump allowed out on day release?


I'm sure Rudy will get this sorted out in court.

Oh, wait a minute ...

"Donald Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia that has been examining efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in that state by the former president and his allies, a source briefed on the matter confirmed on Monday.

"The move to designate Giuliani, 78, as a target – as opposed to a subject – raises the legal stakes for the ex-New York mayor, identified as a key figure in the attempt to reverse the former president’s electoral defeat to Joe Biden in the state."


Is there an indictment just around the corner?



The notice that Giuliani was now a target of the Georgia investigation came on Monday from the office of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, the source said. Being identified as a target means only that a person may be a defendant in the event of an indictment.


Fanni, eh??  This Fanni?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/georgia-prosecutor-fani-willis-barred-from-inves...



It takes a turd, a duck and a khunt to take this seriously.




Fairly sure that the threat of going to prison for a long long time would have Rudy taking it seriously.

His actions seem to be difficult to deny since he has admitted to much of it and there is a lot of evidence that he broadcast on TV and the things he said in various court rooms. He did after all co-ord the fake electors, Had meetings with the republican politicians provided the process to register the fake electors etc. OH and none of this is legal.


It shouldn't take a duck, a tjurd and a Paki to tell you that, shurely.

We're dealing with a graduate of the pwestigious University of Balogney, so anything goes though, ja?
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Reply #595 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

They acted on a affidavit which is basically someone promising they are telling the truth but they don't want to say who said what. WITCH HUNT, 4TH Amendment abuse, Nancy's boys are going down.
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Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:


They have solid grounds for not disclosing as set out in the link. 
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Reply #597 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:46pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

They acted on a affidavit which is basically someone promising they are telling the truth but they don't want to say who said what. WITCH HUNT, 4TH Amendment abuse, Nancy's boys are going down.


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Reply #598 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:



None of this would be happening if biden had actually received 81 million honest votes.

The anti-Trump RINOs are falling to primary challengers and will not be able to run for re-election.

The Judge who signed off for this raid is a known  past visitor to Epstein's Island!

If Trump is so stupid and corrupt what does that say about his accusers? He has been under constant attack for six years and nothing has come of it except harassment and a stolen election!
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Reply #599 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:59pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 9:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:



None of this would be happening if biden had actually received 81 million honest votes.

The anti-Trump RINOs are falling to primary challengers and will not be able to run for re-election.

The Judge who signed off for this raid is a known  past visitor to Epstein's Island!

If Trump is so stupid and corrupt what does that say about his accusers? He has been under constant attack for six years and nothing has come of it except harassment and a stolen election!



It's a scandal large enough to cause a revolution.
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