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Question: Who'll go to prison first?

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Reply #885 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:39pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:38pm:
Trump is a legend in his own time and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history as a witch hunt finale unless Nancy has something else up her sleeve.

Details of the reason for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago are yet to be released because Nancy out of town.


Trump is a legend in his own time mind and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history infamy. It may even end up showing when they did finally catch the wicked orange witch.

Trump will emerge like a classic Western hero with the white hat and Mar-a-Lago where the 4th amendment was violated against an ex president for political gains is not sitting well with  the populous, have a look at what happened with Liz Cheney. The writing is on the wall now.



And how many votes will Biden lose after those tax 87,000 new tax inspectors
raid peoples houses at gunpoint?
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Reply #886 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:45pm
 
This is trumps golf skills.


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Reply #887 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:54pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:38pm:
Trump is a legend in his own time and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history as a witch hunt finale unless Nancy has something else up her sleeve.

Details of the reason for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago are yet to be released because Nancy out of town.


Trump is a legend in his own time mind and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history infamy. It may even end up showing when they did finally catch the wicked orange witch.

Trump will emerge like a classic Western hero ...


Fingers crossed.

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Reply #888 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:57pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:23pm:




Dear Bobby

You do know that you don't have to post all the really stupid crazy stuff don't you?

Please tell me that you do know that this is totally untrue.



Keep up to date would you?

Aug 19, 2022

https://cointelegraph.com/news/biden-is-hiring-87-000-new-irs-agents-and-they-re...


Biden is hiring 87,000 new IRS agents —
and they're coming for you


The Internal Revenue Service is hiring a fleet of new agents. And they’re probably coming for you — regardless of your income level.


The Inflation Reduction Act, signed into law this month by President Joe Biden, empowers the IRS with nearly $80 billion in new funds. The world’s most powerful tax collection agency is using the money to go on a hiring spree to fuel much tougher enforcement efforts.

It is widely assumed that the audits will be brutal and widespread. Taxes start with tax returns, which must be signed under penalties of perjury. The Biden administration has said that the audits on steroids are for fat cats who have escaped having to pay their fair share for too long. The administration has suggested the IRS would perform no new audits on anyone making less than $400,000 annually. Republicans tried to include that in the law, but every Senate Democrat voted against the amendment, as well as IRS audit protection for those earning less than $400,000.

In other words, American taxpayers at every income level are fair game regardless of income. So buckle up, and think about whether your taxes — and records — are vulnerable. How would they look under a microscope? Tax returns must be signed under penalties of perjury. What’s more, if you try to change that language, the IRS says it doesn’t count as a tax return — which means your statute of limitations on an audit never begins. You can be audited forever.


There is no 87,000 new agents in any of the documentation.

The current untenable situation is that the IRS have a budget too small to be able to follow up the bigger cases. They only investigate the average tax payer because they are not financed to chase the multinationals. This financing for the IRS is specifically to allow them to make the biggest companies pay some tax. There is no new provision to do anything with average taxpayers.

They also go on about IRS agents being armed. There are a small number of Agents who are armed, The legislation allowing for this is over 100 years old.

Basically there is nothing about the IRS claims that are true.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #889 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:02pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:27pm:
Yes Trump cheats at golf.








That's democrat propaganda - it's not true.

Trump would never cheat at golf.
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Reply #890 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:07pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:38pm:
Trump is a legend in his own time and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history as a witch hunt finale unless Nancy has something else up her sleeve.

Details of the reason for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago are yet to be released because Nancy out of town.


Trump is a legend in his own time mind and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history infamy. It may even end up showing when they did finally catch the wicked orange witch.

Trump will emerge like a classic Western hero with the white hat and Mar-a-Lago where the 4th amendment was violated against an ex president for political gains is not sitting well with  the populous, have a look at what happened with Liz Cheney. The writing is on the wall now.


Can you explain how the 4th amendment was violated? 

A properly obtained search warrant was processed correctly and approved by a judge. This means that the 4th amendment was not breached.

There is no argument that Trump had possession of the stolen documents or that the list included top secrets.

Trump has been asked to return the documents and didn't.

There was a subpoena issued requiring the documents be returned.

Trump ignored the subpoena.

The Trump Legal team signed a document saying that all the documents were returned which was untrue.

The FBI were aware that documents had been moved after the subpoena had been issued. It would appear that the only way to recover the stolen documents was to have a legal search warrant issued and to go and get them. This is what happened.

You can cry about it all you like the search was legal and fully justified.
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Reply #891 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:12pm
 
In Media movies - they always depict the blonde and red-haired males as villains, etc.
...that's the movies, n' entertainment.

But in Politics - they're the good guys.
But still not according to the 'Media' Democrat corruption of Politics though.

That's why Trump did so well with nothing in his pocket except Melania. TRUMP BECAME A PRESIDENT.  Grin

True 'Western' Politics is yet to emerge. Still stuck in the vortex of the Blue North and Grey South narrative as if it was Europe.

Trump is just the beginning.  Wink
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #892 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:57pm:
There is no 87,000 new agents in any of the documentation.

The current untenable situation is that the IRS have a budget too small to be able to follow up the bigger cases. They only investigate the average tax payer because they are not financed to chase the multinationals. This financing for the IRS is specifically to allow them to make the biggest companies pay some tax. There is no new provision to do anything with average taxpayers.

They also go on about IRS agents being armed. There are a small number of Agents who are armed, The legislation allowing for this is over 100 years old.

Basically there is nothing about the IRS claims that are true.



Check it out in Google - the story is true.
Some places are saying it's false:


https://www.vox.com/2022/8/16/23302798/irs-audit-inflation-reduction-act


Democrats’ new climate, health care, and tax package — known as the Inflation Reduction Act — includes nearly $80 billion in new funding for the IRS, which is supposed to help the chronically underfunded agency staff back up and boost enforcement measures to collect unpaid taxes from wealthy Americans.

The funding has become a political flashpoint in recent days among conservatives and some business groups, who have falsely claimed that the IRS will use the money to hire an “army” of 87,000 new agents who will target average taxpayers.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #893 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:38pm:
Trump is a legend in his own time and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history as a witch hunt finale unless Nancy has something else up her sleeve.

Details of the reason for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago are yet to be released because Nancy out of town.


Trump is a legend in his own time mind and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history infamy. It may even end up showing when they did finally catch the wicked orange witch.

Trump will emerge like a classic Western hero with the white hat and Mar-a-Lago where the 4th amendment was violated against an ex president for political gains is not sitting well with  the populous, have a look at what happened with Liz Cheney. The writing is on the wall now.



And how many votes will Biden lose after those tax 87,000 new tax inspectors
raid peoples houses at gunpoint?


None - Its a lie and not going to happen.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #894 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:41pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 6:38pm:
Trump is a legend in his own time and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history as a witch hunt finale unless Nancy has something else up her sleeve.

Details of the reason for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago are yet to be released because Nancy out of town.


Trump is a legend in his own time mind and Mar-a-Lago is now etched in history infamy. It may even end up showing when they did finally catch the wicked orange witch.

Trump will emerge like a classic Western hero with the white hat and Mar-a-Lago where the 4th amendment was violated against an ex president for political gains is not sitting well with  the populous, have a look at what happened with Liz Cheney. The writing is on the wall now.



And how many votes will Biden lose after those tax 87,000 new tax inspectors
raid peoples houses at gunpoint?


None - Its a lie and not going to happen.



We'll see:


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Reply #895 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:57pm:
There is no 87,000 new agents in any of the documentation.

The current untenable situation is that the IRS have a budget too small to be able to follow up the bigger cases. They only investigate the average tax payer because they are not financed to chase the multinationals. This financing for the IRS is specifically to allow them to make the biggest companies pay some tax. There is no new provision to do anything with average taxpayers.

They also go on about IRS agents being armed. There are a small number of Agents who are armed, The legislation allowing for this is over 100 years old.

Basically there is nothing about the IRS claims that are true.



Check it out in Google - the story is true.
Some places are saying it's false:


https://www.vox.com/2022/8/16/23302798/irs-audit-inflation-reduction-act


Democrats’ new climate, health care, and tax package — known as the Inflation Reduction Act — includes nearly $80 billion in new funding for the IRS, which is supposed to help the chronically underfunded agency staff back up and boost enforcement measures to collect unpaid taxes from wealthy Americans.

The funding has become a political flashpoint in recent days among conservatives and some business groups, who have falsely claimed that the IRS will use the money to hire an “army” of 87,000 new agents who will target average taxpayers.


Did you even read this Bobby ? The first few lines contain the lies you talk about but the serious text following is saying that people earning under $400,000 will see no difference except that their phone calls will be answered.

It shows how since about 2000 the tax on average tax payer audits has stayed the same while tax audits on the more wealthy has decreased dramatically and that this funding will restore these audits to sensible levels.

Your document in short does not agree with what you are claiming.
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Re: Trump's house is raided.
Reply #896 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:53pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:57pm:
There is no 87,000 new agents in any of the documentation.

The current untenable situation is that the IRS have a budget too small to be able to follow up the bigger cases. They only investigate the average tax payer because they are not financed to chase the multinationals. This financing for the IRS is specifically to allow them to make the biggest companies pay some tax. There is no new provision to do anything with average taxpayers.

They also go on about IRS agents being armed. There are a small number of Agents who are armed, The legislation allowing for this is over 100 years old.

Basically there is nothing about the IRS claims that are true.



Check it out in Google - the story is true.
Some places are saying it's false:


https://www.vox.com/2022/8/16/23302798/irs-audit-inflation-reduction-act


Democrats’ new climate, health care, and tax package — known as the Inflation Reduction Act — includes nearly $80 billion in new funding for the IRS, which is supposed to help the chronically underfunded agency staff back up and boost enforcement measures to collect unpaid taxes from wealthy Americans.

The funding has become a political flashpoint in recent days among conservatives and some business groups, who have falsely claimed that the IRS will use the money to hire an “army” of 87,000 new agents who will target average taxpayers.


Did you even read this Bobby ? The first few lines contain the lies you talk about but the serious text following is saying that people earning under $400,000 will see no difference except that their phone calls will be answered.

It shows how since about 2000 the tax on average tax payer audits has stayed the same while tax audits on the more wealthy has decreased dramatically and that this funding will restore these audits to sensible levels.

Your document in short does not agree with what you are claiming.



Can you read? -
I wrote

Some places are saying it's false:

and then give an example.

you are forgiven
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Reply #897 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 9:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:53pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 8:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2022 at 7:57pm:
There is no 87,000 new agents in any of the documentation.

The current untenable situation is that the IRS have a budget too small to be able to follow up the bigger cases. They only investigate the average tax payer because they are not financed to chase the multinationals. This financing for the IRS is specifically to allow them to make the biggest companies pay some tax. There is no new provision to do anything with average taxpayers.

They also go on about IRS agents being armed. There are a small number of Agents who are armed, The legislation allowing for this is over 100 years old.

Basically there is nothing about the IRS claims that are true.



Check it out in Google - the story is true.
Some places are saying it's false:


https://www.vox.com/2022/8/16/23302798/irs-audit-inflation-reduction-act


Democrats’ new climate, health care, and tax package — known as the Inflation Reduction Act — includes nearly $80 billion in new funding for the IRS, which is supposed to help the chronically underfunded agency staff back up and boost enforcement measures to collect unpaid taxes from wealthy Americans.

The funding has become a political flashpoint in recent days among conservatives and some business groups, who have falsely claimed that the IRS will use the money to hire an “army” of 87,000 new agents who will target average taxpayers.


Did you even read this Bobby ? The first few lines contain the lies you talk about but the serious text following is saying that people earning under $400,000 will see no difference except that their phone calls will be answered.

It shows how since about 2000 the tax on average tax payer audits has stayed the same while tax audits on the more wealthy has decreased dramatically and that this funding will restore these audits to sensible levels.

Your document in short does not agree with what you are claiming.



Can you read? -
I wrote

Some places are saying it's false:

and then give an example.

you are forgiven
namaste


Sorry Bobby I thought you meant some other places not 80% internal to your document.

My feeling is that it contains the lies (that you like) in the top section mainly to show that they are lies. You will note that these lies are listed as statements from republican politicians and right wing pundits it isn't rocket surgery to work out that the people with incentive to not be honest are the people who are not being honest.

You will note if you look that the number 87,000 was the total number of employees in the early 2000's. It isn't the number of new employees.
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Reply #898 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 9:32pm
 
I say raid Mar a Lago again just to watch them squeal again.
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Reply #899 - Aug 21st, 2022 at 9:40pm
 
Nah, work to make abortion legal in the whole US and watch the blue wave in November!

70% of new voters registered are women!
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If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
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