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Reply #1050 - Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:02pm

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:17pm:

Economic progressivism is centre right in nature

Social progressivism is a form of social liberalism which is politically centrist.

Neither is Marxist.

Nonsense, as usual. Shite no more, duck. Tsk, tsk.

Marx was very much for economic progress, as it would lead to communism when production was at such a high level that nobody would have to work more than a couple of hours a day.

Social progressivism is a little more complex but it is not liberal still programmatic, ie with a predetermined goal. Progressivism, by definitin, is programmatic. Liberalism by definition, is the absence of a pre-determined goals to progress to. SO progressivism - goal oriented - is the very opposite of liberalism - not goal oriented beyond maximum freedom now and into the future.

Marx was BOTH economic pogressive AND social progressive. A good definition of Marxism, in fact, duck head.

Nil points. No cigar - or peas- neither.

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very much for economic progress,

So economic progress is an example of Marxism ? Really ? You sure that you want to hang your hat there ?

So you saying that capitalism is based on economic regression ?

I don't think your argument holds a lot of water.

You are an idiot, duck head. You have no idea about ANYTHING. Not about Marxism, liberalism, economics, social philosphy, history - nothing.

You eat peas and you poo and... er.. that's it!!

This may help:

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The substance of his discussions doesn't really matter.

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There is no substance in any of these allegations.

You may be well served by adding some substance to your arguments.

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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #1051 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 10:23am

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

Marx was BOTH economic pogressive AND social progressive. A good definition of Marxism, in fact, duck head.

Thanks for confirming that much, though I see you have run away from #1045.

Meanwhile we have Dnarever's comment

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So economic progress is an example of Marxism ? Really ? You sure that you want to hang your hat there ?
So you saying that capitalism is based on economic regression ?I don't think your argument holds a lot of water.

He is of course adopting the mainstream view of Marx as some sort of fool who is responsible for Stalin's Russia (even though the 'Marxist' revolution raised Russia from subsistence agriculture to an industrial power capable of defeating Nazi Germany).

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You (Dnarever) are an idiot, duck head. You have no idea about ANYTHING. Not about Marxism, liberalism, economics, social philosphy, history - nothing.

Well - there are gaps and wrong conclusions in your analyses, as well.... Sad

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Reply #1052 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 11:16am

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 1:48pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 12:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 10:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:31am:

[quote] But just a cursory review of the history of political movements will show that these very same sentiments have ebbed and flowed throughout the course of Western history. The idea that women should be equal in every way to men, that sexuality should be unrestricted, and that traditional Christian-based family values need to be abolished in order to “advance” society are, in fact, nearly a century old.

Well...modern educated women want to be more than baby machines without personal autonomy..

What a mindless idiocy - just what we have come to epect from you.

Er, the subject was the social status of women, in history.

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Was yo mamma a mindless baby machine withut personal autonomy?

Most women didn't have their own careers until recently.

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And personal autonomy- is that like ...er.... personal freedom?

Yes - under rule of law, of course.

So... was yo mamma a mindless baby machine with no personal autonomy and not subject to the rule of law?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102919 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1055 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm Woke is cultural Marxist:
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58104 Here Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1056 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm: Woke is cultural Marxist: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d... Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.
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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #1057 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism, stupid, waddling little water fowl.

You didn't realise, I know.

Peas? Somewhere to shite?
Help yourself.

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Reply #1058 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Woke people are all cultural Marxists - in disguise.

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Reply #1059 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism, stupid, waddling little water fowl.

You didn't realise, I know.

Peas? Somewhere to shite?
Help yourself.

You don't think there is anything not marxist that the right don't like.

The don't like right membership casts a wide net / it is a broad church. The vast majority isn't marxist.

Marxist is just a small subset ot the rights insane list of dislikes.

Dr Seuss is not marxist but it is woke to the right ?

The Green M&M isn't marxist ?

Bud Light isn't Marxist ?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102919 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1060 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:56pm Dear DNA, do you have White guilt? Did you vote for homo marriage? Have you read any Karl Marx books?
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Reply #1061 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 8:02pm

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism,...

They don't like anything they don't understand.

Even gravity triggers them.

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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #1062 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 8:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism, stupid, waddling little water fowl.

You didn't realise, I know.

Peas? Somewhere to shite?
Help yourself.

You don't think there is anything not marxist that the right don't like.

The don't like right membership casts a wide net / it is a broad church. The vast majority isn't marxist.

Marxist is just a small subset ot the rights insane list of dislikes.

Dr Seuss is not marxist but it is woke to the right ?

The Green M&M isn't marxist ?

Bud Light isn't Marxist ?

OK - tell us then - what IS the intellectual basis of Lefty agitation if not Marxism?

It can't just be peas and poo, like your intellectual grounding.

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Reply #1063 - Feb 21^st, 2024 at 9:25am

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism, stupid, waddling little water fowl.

You didn't realise, I know.

Peas? Somewhere to shite?
Help yourself.

You don't think there is anything not marxist that the right don't like.

The don't like right membership casts a wide net / it is a broad church. The vast majority isn't marxist.

Marxist is just a small subset ot the rights insane list of dislikes.

Dr Seuss is not marxist but it is woke to the right ?

The Green M&M isn't marxist ?

Bud Light isn't Marxist ?

OK - tell us then - what IS the intellectual basis of Lefty agitation if not Marxism?

It can't just be peas and poo, like your intellectual grounding.

You should use words that you understand.

Much of people's agitation would be non political in nature.

In this case even for the 10% where it may be political it could equally or more probably be Liberal, Libertarian, social justice, progressive, moderate conservative, socialist or others.

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Reply #1064 - Feb 21^st, 2024 at 9:49am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21^st, 2024 at 9:25am:

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

Woke is cultural Marxist:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/907/648/original/04805d...

Woke is anything the right don't like, nothing to do with marxism.

Er... the right doesn't like Marxism, stupid, waddling little water fowl.

You didn't realise, I know.

Peas? Somewhere to shite?
Help yourself.

You don't think there is anything not marxist that the right don't like.

The don't like right membership casts a wide net / it is a broad church. The vast majority isn't marxist.

Marxist is just a small subset ot the rights insane list of dislikes.

Dr Seuss is not marxist but it is woke to the right ?

The Green M&M isn't marxist ?

Bud Light isn't Marxist ?

OK - tell us then - what IS the intellectual basis of Lefty agitation if not Marxism?

It can't just be peas and poo, like your intellectual grounding.

You should use words that you understand.

Much of people's agitation would be non political in nature.

In this case even for the 10% where it may be political it could equally or more probably be Liberal, Libertarian, social justice, progressive, moderate conservative, socialist or others.

I am asking you about intellectual groundings, not about labels.

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