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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41835	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1230 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 12:36pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:50pm: Jasin wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:35pm: Brian is a gay French lefty in ADF high heels I doubt we'll see Brian for one week.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46176 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1232 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:33pm And just like that COEXIST bumper stickers disappear and are replaced with GENOCIDE bumper stickers https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Coexist_Genocide_Sticker_Signed_2.jpg
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Reply #1233 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 11:07am

Frank wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

And just like that COEXIST bumper stickers disappear and are replaced with GENOCIDE bumper stickers
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That's what happens when 'national sovereignty' neanderthals overrule UN sovereignty in international law.

you should consider some 'cultural Marxism': "workers of the world, unite"....and its offshoots, eg the socialist international

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Reply #1234 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 8:16am

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 11:07am:

Frank wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

And just like that COEXIST bumper stickers disappear and are replaced with GENOCIDE bumper stickers
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That's what happens when 'national sovereignty' neanderthals overrule UN sovereignty in international law.

you should consider some 'cultural Marxism': "workers of the world, unite"....and its offshoots, eg the socialist international

Gawd you are stupid.

'National sovereignty' - United NATIONS.

There is NO UN WITHOUT national sovereignty.

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Reply #1235 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:18pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:04pm:

German-American writer and Nazi sympathiser, George Sylvester Viereck interviews Hitler in 1932 ....

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

It is known that for a short time Hitler played up to the socialists in his party as a way to gain support from common workers, he soon dumped that and chose to eliminate the socialists instead.

Hitler had a long record of telling people what they wanted to hear and not what was true. The English went to see Hitler and were convinced that he wasn't going to invade anyone.

That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist. As you say, he was a fascist, so then, he was a fascist socialist. He wasn't a capitalist was he?

It was the capitalists that put Hitler into power.

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That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist.

If he were you would wonder why he imprisoned and killed socialists ?

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Reply #1236 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:18pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:04pm:

German-American writer and Nazi sympathiser, George Sylvester Viereck interviews Hitler in 1932 ....

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

It is known that for a short time Hitler played up to the socialists in his party as a way to gain support from common workers, he soon dumped that and chose to eliminate the socialists instead.

Hitler had a long record of telling people what they wanted to hear and not what was true. The English went to see Hitler and were convinced that he wasn't going to invade anyone.

That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist. As you say, he was a fascist, so then, he was a fascist socialist. He wasn't a capitalist was he?

It was the capitalists that put Hitler into power.

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That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist.

If he were you would wonder why he imprisoned and killed socialists ?

The gruesome, wannabe engineers of human souls have always been fighting each other.
SocdDems versus Nazis, Bolshevik versus Socdems and Nazis, left faction of Labor versus Right faction, Marxists versus Prudhonists etc, etc.

I see no significant difference between Marxists and Hitlerists.

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Reply #1237 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:53pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 11:07am:

Frank wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

And just like that COEXIST bumper stickers disappear and are replaced with GENOCIDE bumper stickers
https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Coexist_Genocide_Sticker_Signed_2.jpg
https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Coexist_Genocide_Sticker_Signed_2.jpg

That's what happens when 'national sovereignty' neanderthals overrule UN sovereignty in international law.

you should consider some 'cultural Marxism': "workers of the world, unite"....and its offshoots, eg the socialist international

Gawd you are stupid.

Let's see if you prove in the your following remarks....

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sovereignty' - United NATIONS.

There is NO UN WITHOUT national sovereignty.

See - you only proved your OWN stupidity.

Nation states are merely an extension of ancient tribalism.

International law, by definition, requires establishment of international sovereignty, with chosen representatives of the tribes residing in the UN.

See: "The Parliament of Man", by Paul Kennedy.

You of course, driven by Conservative, blind, tribal instincts, like groups of predators marking out "their" territory, are repelled by the very concept of international law.

Deplorable.

"The world is my country, all men are my brethren, to do good is my religion": Thomas Paine.

..on the path to enlightenment.

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Reply #1238 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:01pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:04pm:

German-American writer and Nazi sympathiser, George Sylvester Viereck interviews Hitler in 1932 ....

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

It is known that for a short time Hitler played up to the socialists in his party as a way to gain support from common workers, he soon dumped that and chose to eliminate the socialists instead.

Hitler had a long record of telling people what they wanted to hear and not what was true. The English went to see Hitler and were convinced that he wasn't going to invade anyone.

That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist. As you say, he was a fascist, so then, he was a fascist socialist. He wasn't a capitalist was he?

But he wasn't a "cultural Marxist"?

"...workers of the world, unite...".

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Reply #1239 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:15pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:18pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:04pm:

German-American writer and Nazi sympathiser, George Sylvester Viereck interviews Hitler in 1932 ....

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

It is known that for a short time Hitler played up to the socialists in his party as a way to gain support from common workers, he soon dumped that and chose to eliminate the socialists instead.

Hitler had a long record of telling people what they wanted to hear and not what was true. The English went to see Hitler and were convinced that he wasn't going to invade anyone.

That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist. As you say, he was a fascist, so then, he was a fascist socialist. He wasn't a capitalist was he?

It was the capitalists that put Hitler into power.

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That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist.

If he were you would wonder why he imprisoned and killed socialists ?

The gruesome, wannabe engineers of human souls have always been fighting each other.

well - apes have always been fighting one another (except maybe the Bonobos....)

And the fighting has continued, as increasing competition in techological advance - and the fighting over who well be the slaves required in that advance - persisted.

Marx saw a different way: "workers of the world, unite."

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SocDems versus Nazis, Bolshevik versus Socdems and Nazis, left faction of Labor versus Right faction, Marxists versus Prudhonists etc, etc.

Your error: social democrats don't fight Nazis, they fight the status quo which is churnng out $billionaires amid entrenched poverty and soaring inequality among individuals and nation states.

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I see no significant difference between Marxists and Hitlerists.

That's because you are defining those terms in terms of your own Conservative ideology.

Hitler wanted to remove whole races from the world; Marxists want international socialism: "workers of the world, unite".

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58506 Here Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1240 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:16pm At least we all know that there will never ever be such a thing as cultural Capitalism. Nup no culture whatsoever.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12936 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #1241 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:20pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:16pm: At least we all know that there will never ever be such a thing as cultural Capitalism. Nup no culture whatsoever. Good point, apart from 'survibal of the fittest' driven by self-interest
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Reply #1242 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:36pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

At least we all know that there will never ever be such a thing as cultural Capitalism. Nup no culture whatsoever.

Good point, apart from 'survibal of the fittest' driven by self-interest

Even their survival of the fitter routine is limited to financial fitness. Turn up to a rich guys place with 8 guys holding baseball bats to take all their stuff. See how that goes down with the right.

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Reply #1243 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 7:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 5:18pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:04pm:

German-American writer and Nazi sympathiser, George Sylvester Viereck interviews Hitler in 1932 ....

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

It is known that for a short time Hitler played up to the socialists in his party as a way to gain support from common workers, he soon dumped that and chose to eliminate the socialists instead.

Hitler had a long record of telling people what they wanted to hear and not what was true. The English went to see Hitler and were convinced that he wasn't going to invade anyone.

That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist. As you say, he was a fascist, so then, he was a fascist socialist. He wasn't a capitalist was he?

It was the capitalists that put Hitler into power.

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That doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist.

If he were you would wonder why he imprisoned and killed socialists ?

The gruesome, wannabe engineers of human souls have always been fighting each other.

well - apes have always been fighting one another (except maybe the Bonobos....)

And the fighting has continued, as increasing competition in techological advance - and the fighting over who well be the slaves required in that advance - persisted.

Marx saw a different way: "workers of the world, unite."

Quote:

SocDems versus Nazis, Bolshevik versus Socdems and Nazis, left faction of Labor versus Right faction, Marxists versus Prudhonists etc, etc.

Your error: social democrats don't fight Nazis, they fight the status quo which is churnng out $billionaires amid entrenched poverty and soaring inequality among individuals and nation states.

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I see no significant difference between Marxists and Hitlerists.

That's because you are defining those terms in terms of your own Conservative ideology.

Hitler wanted to remove whole races from the world; Marxists want international socialism: "workers of the world, unite".

How many 'class enemies' have your guys murdered, ignorant parrot?
Tens of millions.

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Reply #1244 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 7:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

At least we all know that there will never ever be such a thing as cultural Capitalism. Nup no culture whatsoever.

Good point, apart from 'survibal of the fittest' driven by self-interest

Even their survival of the fitter routine is limited to financial fitness. Turn up to a rich guys place with 8 guys holding baseball bats to take all their stuff. See how that goes down with the right.

That is really stupid/sinister/vicious even for a mindless duck like you.

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