Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:



it's obvious.   tsk tsk   

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 4:33pm:



You run a whole cultural Marxist website but it's so dead
that you come here to post you communist lies.

The difference between the faulty communist systems and the faulty capitalist systems is that the communist one failed first.

What we are doing is clearly not working.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:


Not a skerrick of evidence.

Frank wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:


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As a leader of the movement I have to respect your view.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 5:55pm:



Not sure about that.  Capitalism has always had socialism to bail it out.  It has always been capitalise the wins, socialise the losses.  Even before the great depression.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:



What is Marxism?  What is socialism?

If socialism has a future, it may well lie in some form of market socialism. Market socialism promises neither the utopia of the early socialists nor the brave new world that Marx and his followers envisioned as the fulfillment of history. But it does promise to promote cooperation and solidarity rather than competitive individualism, and it aims at reducing, if not eliminating, the class divisions that foster exploitation and alienation. In these respects, this modest, decentralized version of socialism continues to sound the themes that have long inspired people to take up the cause of socialism. Even in Latin America and other places where socialists continue to call for direct, public ownership of natural resources and major industries, they nevertheless leave room for private competition for profits in the marketplace. In one way or another, socialists now seem more interested in bringing the free market under control than in eliminating it completely.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/socialism

Many of those methods of cultural control are rooted in Marxist ideology of class, race, gender, post-colonial etc struggle and antagonism.

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 8:13pm:



State intervention in a capitalist economy is not socialism.
Taxation and wealth redistribution, social security, state controlled armed forces, state controlled foreign relations are not socialism.

Marxist ideology and methods of social and political analysis are present in capitalist economies, education systems, civil society bodies and NGOs. They do not make a country socialist, even if they are among to do so through their efforts.