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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #555 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 8:23pm Quote: What's the word that defines someone who lives in a make-believe world and can't distinguish it from reality? A Linus.
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Linus Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 471 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #556 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 8:29pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Quote: What's the word that defines someone who lives in a make-believe world and can't distinguish it from reality? A Linus. Obviously a typo. "A Lisa"- yes.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45888 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #557 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm Yes!
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45888 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #558 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 9:30pm LOL, ahahahahahaha Poor old Larry, up to his (boringly) familiar tricks. Why do Larry’s posts remind me strongly of “Keeping Up Appearances?”’
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Reply #559 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:52pm

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:30pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Howard’s designed-to-fail referendum? Of course we blocked it, would stop us having a real republic.

Bad move, tovarich, better adhere more closely to Marxis/Leninist thought as interpreted by Comrade Stalin!

Did Howard design it, Juvenile Wanker? Really? Not the Constitutional Convention?
Your mind is gone and you remember nothing or you are lying on purpise or a bit of both.

The 1998 Australian Constitutional Convention debated the need for a change to the Constitution of Australia which would abolish the Australian monarchy.[5] The convention considered three categories of model for the selection of the head of state in an Australian republic: direct election, parliamentary election by a special majority, and appointment by a special council following prime ministerial nomination.

"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented). Following a series of votes, a proposal for a "Bipartisan Appointment of the President Model" for an Australian republic was endorsed by a majority of delegates who voted for or against the motion (monarchists and some radical-change republicans abstained from the vote).[6] The Convention recommended to the Prime Minister and Parliament of Australia that the model, and other related changes to the Constitution, supported by the convention, be put to the people in a constitutional referendum in 1999.
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"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented).

Not correct. The republicans supported 2 models and could not agree.Turnbull forced through his prefered option which meant that about 50% of the republicans didn't support it - he split the republican vote in two. The 50% of people who didn't like either republic models were always going to vote against it. In other words the proposed model never had a chance as it was only supported by at most 30% of the community. Turnbulls bullying killed it stone dead. The politicians involvement didn't help by insisting that there was only one model that they would support. they never had any intention of allowing a system where they didn't maintain full control.

The system that the politicians supported was and is the one that the people didn't.

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Reply #560 - Jul 28^th, 2023 at 11:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:30pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Howard’s designed-to-fail referendum? Of course we blocked it, would stop us having a real republic.

Bad move, tovarich, better adhere more closely to Marxis/Leninist thought as interpreted by Comrade Stalin!

Did Howard design it, Juvenile Wanker? Really? Not the Constitutional Convention?
Your mind is gone and you remember nothing or you are lying on purpise or a bit of both.

The 1998 Australian Constitutional Convention debated the need for a change to the Constitution of Australia which would abolish the Australian monarchy.[5] The convention considered three categories of model for the selection of the head of state in an Australian republic: direct election, parliamentary election by a special majority, and appointment by a special council following prime ministerial nomination.

"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented). Following a series of votes, a proposal for a "Bipartisan Appointment of the President Model" for an Australian republic was endorsed by a majority of delegates who voted for or against the motion (monarchists and some radical-change republicans abstained from the vote).[6] The Convention recommended to the Prime Minister and Parliament of Australia that the model, and other related changes to the Constitution, supported by the convention, be put to the people in a constitutional referendum in 1999.
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"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented).

Noy correct. The republicans supported 2 models and could not agree.Turnbull forced through his prefered option which meant that about 50% of the republicans didn't support it. The 50% of people who didn't like either republic models were always going to vote against it. In other words the proposed moder never had a chance as it was only supported by at most 30% of the community. Turnbulls bullying killed it stone dead. The politicians involvement didn't help by insisting that there was only one model that they would support. they never had any intention of allowing a system where they didn't maintain full control.

The system that the politicians supported was and is the one that the people didn't.

Sooooo.... not Howard's or the conservatives' doing.

Hear that, Juvenile Wank??

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Reply #561 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:26am

I only just noticed this little gem...

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Although, there seems to be some controversy over whether you're a woman or not. I've been told that you're not.

What type of proof do you suggest I send you in order to placate your curiosity (as regards my sex/gender) which is currently based on the solid evidence of unhinged tosspot driven hearsay?

Please advise.

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Reply #562 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:45am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

I only just noticed this little gem...

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Although, there seems to be some controversy over whether you're a woman or not. I've been told that you're not.

What type of proof do you suggest I send you in order to placate your curiosity (as regards my sex/gender) which is currently based on the solid evidence of unhinged tosspot driven hearsay?

Please advise.

yes - silly rumors started by Monk due to him being unsure about his own gender
and self projecting on to other people.

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Reply #563 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 1:40pm

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 11:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:30pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Howard’s designed-to-fail referendum? Of course we blocked it, would stop us having a real republic.

Bad move, tovarich, better adhere more closely to Marxis/Leninist thought as interpreted by Comrade Stalin!

Did Howard design it, Juvenile Wanker? Really? Not the Constitutional Convention?
Your mind is gone and you remember nothing or you are lying on purpise or a bit of both.

The 1998 Australian Constitutional Convention debated the need for a change to the Constitution of Australia which would abolish the Australian monarchy.[5] The convention considered three categories of model for the selection of the head of state in an Australian republic: direct election, parliamentary election by a special majority, and appointment by a special council following prime ministerial nomination.

"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented). Following a series of votes, a proposal for a "Bipartisan Appointment of the President Model" for an Australian republic was endorsed by a majority of delegates who voted for or against the motion (monarchists and some radical-change republicans abstained from the vote).[6] The Convention recommended to the Prime Minister and Parliament of Australia that the model, and other related changes to the Constitution, supported by the convention, be put to the people in a constitutional referendum in 1999.
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"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented).

Noy correct. The republicans supported 2 models and could not agree.Turnbull forced through his prefered option which meant that about 50% of the republicans didn't support it. The 50% of people who didn't like either republic models were always going to vote against it. In other words the proposed moder never had a chance as it was only supported by at most 30% of the community. Turnbulls bullying killed it stone dead. The politicians involvement didn't help by insisting that there was only one model that they would support. they never had any intention of allowing a system where they didn't maintain full control.

The system that the politicians supported was and is the one that the people didn't.

Sooooo.... not Howard's or the conservatives' doing.

Hear that, Juvenile Wank??

No Howard was one of Australia's few Monarchists and he didn't help the cause but it wasn't his doing the way it worked out. The issue was that the model presented (bullied through) was widely not supported even by pro republicans.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12459 Gender:	Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere. Reply #564 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 1:50pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:07pm: Conservatism is a process which finds meaning with each GENERATION! Yes, as it ever was: driven by blind self-interest 'survival of the fittest' instincts, unmediated by (cortex-brain) concepts such as 'fairness'.
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Reply #565 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 2:14pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 1:29pm:

I loved reading the above post.

Knowledgeable wordsmiths always stand out for me.

Already comprehensively debunked in #539.

Juxtaposition of you and "knowledgeable" in the same sentence is an oxymoron, as others have already pointed out.

As for Frank, he still hasn't answered my question in #482: namely, what is Thomas Jefferson's error in this assertion: "the money issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people".....

You needn't bother yourself with it, you are even less capable than Frank on money matters, as shown by your resort to 'asking a friend', when told Lowe could have funded the costs of the covid lock-downs at no cost to the government, because normal free-market supply and demand rules no longer applied, during the lock-downs.

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Reply #566 - Jul 29^th, 2023 at 7:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 11:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:30pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Howard’s designed-to-fail referendum? Of course we blocked it, would stop us having a real republic.

Bad move, tovarich, better adhere more closely to Marxis/Leninist thought as interpreted by Comrade Stalin!

Did Howard design it, Juvenile Wanker? Really? Not the Constitutional Convention?
Your mind is gone and you remember nothing or you are lying on purpise or a bit of both.

The 1998 Australian Constitutional Convention debated the need for a change to the Constitution of Australia which would abolish the Australian monarchy.[5] The convention considered three categories of model for the selection of the head of state in an Australian republic: direct election, parliamentary election by a special majority, and appointment by a special council following prime ministerial nomination.

"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented). Following a series of votes, a proposal for a "Bipartisan Appointment of the President Model" for an Australian republic was endorsed by a majority of delegates who voted for or against the motion (monarchists and some radical-change republicans abstained from the vote).[6] The Convention recommended to the Prime Minister and Parliament of Australia that the model, and other related changes to the Constitution, supported by the convention, be put to the people in a constitutional referendum in 1999.
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"In principle" agreement was reached by a majority of delegates for an Australian Republic (though a minority bloc of monarchists dissented).

Noy correct. The republicans supported 2 models and could not agree.Turnbull forced through his prefered option which meant that about 50% of the republicans didn't support it. The 50% of people who didn't like either republic models were always going to vote against it. In other words the proposed moder never had a chance as it was only supported by at most 30% of the community. Turnbulls bullying killed it stone dead. The politicians involvement didn't help by insisting that there was only one model that they would support. they never had any intention of allowing a system where they didn't maintain full control.

The system that the politicians supported was and is the one that the people didn't.

Sooooo.... not Howard's or the conservatives' doing.

Hear that, Juvenile Wank??

No Howard was one of Australia's few Monarchists and he didn't help the cause but it wasn't his doing the way it worked out. The issue was that the model presented (bullied through) was widely not supported even by pro republicans.

The model DEVISED BY THE REPUBLICANS, not Howard.

In a way the Voice suffers from the same affliction- its partisans cant agree on what they want but ask everyone else to along anyway despite the internal divisions and uncertainties. Nutty.

If you cant say how exactly your proposed change is for the better then you shouldn't agitate for constitutional change. The constitution is not a poem, capturing sentiment and vibe. It is basic law.

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Reply #568 - Jul 30^th, 2023 at 1:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/144/031/793/original/926e69...

But obviously we need publicly-owned housing as well as privately owned: just look at Oz!

And no, communism can't be summed up in a single sentence.

eg another sentence is: "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Karl Marx.

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Reply #569 - Jul 30^th, 2023 at 1:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 1:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/144/031/793/original/926e69...

But obviously we need publicly-owned housing as well as privately owned: just look at Oz!

And no, communism can't be summed up in a single sentence.

eg another sentence is: "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Karl Marx.

Well - dirty Dan is putting a fat land tax on all properties that are rented out starting Jan 2024.
That will be passed on to renters making it even harder for
them to get out of the rent rut.
Labor is entrenching poverty and making the rich richer.
That sort of goes against his communist ideas?

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