Frank wrote on Sep 22
nd, 2023 at 9:53am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 21
st, 2023 at 6:01pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 21
st, 2023 at 9:58am:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 20
th, 2023 at 9:50pm:
Cultural Marxism isn't a thing - It was made up by the right.
Silly nonsense.
Marxism is not made up at all. Only a complete idiot would insist that Marxism is a made-up conspiracy theory.
Er...low IQ, Frank? The discussion is about the fake RW concept of "
cultural Marxism".
Marxism is about the economy, not "culture" ie, views re homosexuality, feminism, religion, international law, globalization, tradition, family, and other coservative shibboleths (pro- or anti-) etc etc...all listed by the
crippled conservatibe brain aka as aquascoot.
Silly, ignorant bollock.
Marx talks about BOTH economics and culture. Marxism treats the latter, the superstructure, as being determined by and built on the foundation of the former.
"Workers of the world, unite: you only have your chains to lose" ie, chains imposed by greedy capitalists.
But you are trying to raise the "superstructure" (culture) above the foundations (the economy), whereas Marx only examined "culture" in as much as it is related to
the causes of the mal-distribution of factories' output. [Today - with many factories
functioning more or less without workers - the problem is now the false doctrine of 'austerity' imposed on governments by private financiers and central bankers.]
Quote:There is a very great deal in Marxism about false consciousness, bourgeois values, the need to transform culture, values, thinking, ideology.
Yes - as part of understanding
how to create an economy which works for all ("workers of the world, unite"); whereas today's RW fantasists employ 'cultural marxism as a
straw man for real Marxism, to conceal their own greedy claims on the nation's output, so they divert to considerations of "culture".
Quote:There is a vast library of Marxist cultural analysis and only an complete idiot would say that it is all just made-up right wing conspiracy theory and Marxism only concerned with economics.
Addressed above; Marx's concern was economic equity and justice, in a world of economic injustice.
Obviously Marx had more to say about the economy, than 'culture'.
https://monthlyreview.org/2018/04/01/the-multiple-meanings-of-marxs-value-theory...The Multiple Meanings of Marx’s Value TheoryKarl Marx’s “critique of political economy” is grounded in his value theory. “Critique” has to be distinguished from criticism: Marx aimed not only to point out the errors of political economy, but also to learn from its scientific results. Here the key names are François Quesnay, Adam Smith, and David Ricardo. Marx was also interested in assessing the conditions and the limits of the knowledge provided by classical political economy. At the same time, he saw the critique of the “science” of political economy as the means to develop a critique of capitalist social relations.