Frank wrote on Nov 22
nd, 2023 at 5:55pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 21
st, 2023 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Nov 17
th, 2023 at 5:47pm:
I agree, Marxism is a malicious Bolshevik conspiracy theory. It started in Germany, spread to Russia where it reigned for 70 years and then spread to the West when the Marxist-Leninist conspiracy collapsed in Russia.
Sloppy history, there. Soviet Communisn attracted many Western thinkers during the GD in the West, before the collapse of the USSR in 1990.
Q. Why were they attracted?
And why is democracy held in such low regard today, especially among the nation's youth?
Quote:It is like Medusa, cut off one head and nine will grow in its stead. It is now here, in a variety of manifestations, all 'mal' to the max.
Yes.....you need to answer the above qestions to understand why.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.”
― George Orwell
Marxism is such a stupid idea.
Orwell described himself as a "democratic socialist" (as does Bernie Sanders). Marx's ideas on 'communism' predated Stalinist totalitarianism.
But the real culprits today are the neoclassical private bankers running the global economy;
currency-issuing governments should not be forced to borrow money to finance the public sector (see the MMT thread).
Quote:Much of the 'youth of today' is as stupid and tendentious as you, Bbwian, Mothra, paki et al, their spiritual and intellectual mentors and teachers from kindly to uni, all a product of the 60s, 70s and 80s.
You still haven't considered why youth are rejecting Thatcherite 'democratic' neoliberalism, and looking at 'socialism'.
Quote:You were, in turn, products of your own class of Stalinists and fellow travellers from the 30 to the 50s.
Nearly everyone interested in social justice looked to Soviet communism before the horrors of Stalinist repression revealed themselves - and which socialist Orwell wanted to expose.
Quote:And so on and so forth, to the French Revolution, to the English civil war etc, etc.
In reverse order....individual greed and privilege always resulting in social and economic injustice which can only be eradicated by the state.
Quote:It is not new, for the "youth of today" to be eager for some seductive nonsense,...
yeh...well I suggest you make sure they can all afford housing, for a start....
Quote:each at bottom concerned with destruction and and fuelled by ignorant zeal. Many, like you, never move on from ignorant zeal, even as they hair and teeth fall out.
By now there won't be any unbroken mirrors in your house...lucky for you..