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Reply #795 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:15pm
 
Nobody takes any notice of Booby.

His list is those members more intelligent and better informed than him, be proud to be on that list, it means you are smarter than the average OzPolian!
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Reply #796 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:27pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 11:47am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 2:02pm:
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Updated list of Ozpolitic Cultural Marxists:  30/12/23

LTYC,
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Jim,
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I object: I'm an 'economic Marxist', not a "cultural marxist", I believe in common prosperity, not cultural  ideology (just to hammer some definition into your cultural diatribes).



Where's the boundary between economic policy and culture?

Marxism is a set of ideas, a way of seeing and anlysing the world, so it is entirely a set of cultural phenomena.



"In the transition from Marx to Marxism, and in the development of mainstream Marxism itself, the proposition of the determining base and the determined superstructure has been commonly held to be the key to Marxist cultural analysis."
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Reply #797 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:40pm
 
Karl was about economics.
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Reply #798 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:46pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:40pm:
Karl was about economics.

Religion is the opiate of the people - how is that about economics, Juvenile Punk?


Also,

In Marxist thought, superstructure refers to the political, legal, religious, and cultural institutions that rest upon and are determined by the economic base, or mode of production. See also base and superstructure; and Marxism.
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Reply #799 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:52pm
 
Religion was the opiate of the people, thankfully much less so these days.

Marx wanted to transform the economy and that involved politics.
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Reply #800 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:53pm
 
Cultural marxism is bullshit, Booby’s list just an expression of dislike of smart, educated people. He was a high school dropout, as you can tell from his dumb posts.
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Reply #801 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 1:03pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
Cultural marxism is bullshit, Booby’s list just an expression of dislike of smart, educated people. He was a high school dropout, as you can tell from his dumb posts.




Marxist cultural analysis


Marxist cultural analysis is a form of cultural analysis and anti-capitalist cultural critique, which assumes the theory of cultural hegemony and from this specifically targets those aspects of culture which are profit driven and mass-produced under capitalism.[1][2][3][4]

The original theory behind this form of analysis is commonly associated with Leon Trotsky, Georg Lukács, Antonio Gramsci, and the Frankfurt School, representing an important tendency within Western Marxism. Marxist cultural analysis has commonly considered the industrialization, mass-production, and mechanical reproduction of culture by the "culture industry" as having an overall negative effect on society, an effect which reifies the self-conception of the individual.[2][5]

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Reply #802 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 1:28pm
 
Yup, 100% pure bovine excrement.
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Reply #803 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 1:42pm
 
This article will be too intellectual for some of the posters here
but I post a small excerpt of it:


https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2019/01/cultural-marxism-is-real/



Cultural Marxism Is Real



Jan 4, 2019

Allen Mendenhall


Feminism, gender studies, critical race theory, post-colonialism, disability studies—these and other disciplines routinely get pulled through one or more of the theoretical paradigms I’ve outlined. The fact that they’re guided by Marxism or adopt Marxist terms and concepts, however, does not make them off-limits or unworthy of attention.

Which brings me to a warning: Condemning these ideas as forbidden, as dangers that corrupt young minds, might have unintended consequences. Marxist spinoffs must be studied to be comprehensively understood. Don’t remove them from the curriculum: contextualize them, challenge them, and question them. Don’t reify their power by ignoring or neglecting them.

Popular iterations of cultural Marxism reveal themselves in the casual use of terms like “privilege,” “alienation,” “commodification,” “fetishism,” “materialism,” “hegemony,” or “superstructure.” As Zubatov wrote for Tablet, “It is a short step from Gramsci’s ‘hegemony’ to the now-ubiquitous toxic memes of ‘patriarchy,’ ‘heteronormativity,’ ‘white supremacy,’ ‘white privilege,’ ‘white fragility,’ ‘and whiteness.’” He adds, “It is a short step from the Marxist and cultural Marxist premise that ideas are, at their core, expressions of power to rampant, divisive identity politics and the routine judging of people and their cultural contributions based on their race, gender, sexuality and religion.”

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Reply #804 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 5:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:27pm:
Where's the boundary between economic policy and culture?


One is concerned with production, consumption/allocation of resources, the other is all encompassing and concerns itself with social norms, religion, gender roles, rule of law, as well as economic ideology.  So Marxism is a subset of culture, with a definite economic foundation. 

Which is why Marx's concern to improve the lot of workers attracts my interest; the aspects of culture mentioned above have scant interest for Marxists, other than by observing  how the common man is enslaved by cultural norms

Interestingly though, consider abortion: if the state looked after unwanted babies, abortion would be 'unethical'......an example of where culture and economics meet. 

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Marxism is a set of ideas, a way of seeing and anlysing the world, so it is entirely a set of cultural phenomena.


See above. What is analyzed in Marxism is the system of allocation of  resources, a restricted subset of culture.   Which is why the phony subject of "cultural Marxism" is invented by the Right, as cover for their 'survival of the fittest' impulses. 

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"In the transition from Marx to Marxism, and in the development of mainstream Marxism itself, ......


Demonstrating the process of obfuscation - on the postulated path from Marx to "Marxism" - as cover for survival of the fittest/ natural individual rights Libertarian delusions. 

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"...the proposition of the determining base and the determined superstructure has been commonly held to be the key to Marxist cultural analysis."


Waffle;the result of trying to work out why men consciously (against natural survival of the organism instincts) want economic justice, even though Western "freedom values" ideologues  insist on every man for himself... aka neoliberal free markets, with a poverty-level 'safety net' (dole) to prevent social revolution. 



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Reply #805 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 6:00pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 5:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 12:27pm:
Where's the boundary between economic policy and culture?


One is concerned with production, consumption/allocation of resources, the other is all encompassing and concerns itself with social norms, religion, gender roles, rule of law, as well as economic ideology.  So Marxism is a subset of culture, with a definite economic foundation. 

Which is why Marx's concern to improve the lot of workers attracts my interest; the aspects of culture mentioned above have scant interest for Marxists, other than by observing  how the common man is enslaved by cultural norms

Interestingly though, consider abortion: if the state looked after unwanted babies, abortion would be 'unethical'......an example of where culture and economics meet. 

Quote:
Marxism is a set of ideas, a way of seeing and anlysing the world, so it is entirely a set of cultural phenomena.


See above. What is analyzed in Marxism is the system of allocation of  resources, a restricted subset of culture.   Which is why the phony subject of "cultural Marxism" is invented by the Right, as cover for their 'survival of the fittest' impulses. 

Quote:
"In the transition from Marx to Marxism, and in the development of mainstream Marxism itself, ......


Demonstrating the process of obfuscation - on the postulated path from Marx to "Marxism" - as cover for survival of the fittest/ natural individual rights Libertarian delusions. 

Quote:
"...the proposition of the determining base and the determined superstructure has been commonly held to be the key to Marxist cultural analysis."


Waffle;the result of trying to work out why men consciously (against natural survival of the organism instincts) want economic justice, even though Western "freedom values" ideologues  insist on every man for himself... aka neoliberal free markets, with a poverty-level 'safety net' (dole) to prevent social revolution. 




Cheesy

You are talking about cultural values: justice, common prosperity, etc in Marxist terms.
Cultural Marxist terms.  Marx had absolutely nothing to say about 21st century economics. Or even 20th century economics.
What he was writing about was political economy with a dialectical materialist methodology - all cultural. Economics is cultural. Values are cultural.
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Reply #806 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 6:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 1:42pm:
This article will be too intellectual for some of the posters here
but I post a small excerpt of it:


https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2019/01/cultural-marxism-is-real/



Cultural Marxism Is Real



Jan 4, 2019

Allen Mendenhall


Feminism, gender studies, critical race theory, post-colonialism, disability studies—these and other disciplines routinely get pulled through one or more of the theoretical paradigms I’ve outlined. The fact that they’re guided by Marxism or adopt Marxist terms and concepts, however, does not make them off-limits or unworthy of attention.

Which brings me to a warning: Condemning these ideas as forbidden, as dangers that corrupt young minds, might have unintended consequences. Marxist spinoffs must be studied to be comprehensively understood. Don’t remove them from the curriculum: contextualize them, challenge them, and question them. Don’t reify their power by ignoring or neglecting them.

Popular iterations of cultural Marxism reveal themselves in the casual use of terms like “privilege,” “alienation,” “commodification,” “fetishism,” “materialism,” “hegemony,” or “superstructure.” As Zubatov wrote for Tablet, “It is a short step from Gramsci’s ‘hegemony’ to the now-ubiquitous toxic memes of ‘patriarchy,’ ‘heteronormativity,’ ‘white supremacy,’ ‘white privilege,’ ‘white fragility,’ ‘and whiteness.’” He adds, “It is a short step from the Marxist and cultural Marxist premise that ideas are, at their core, expressions of power to rampant, divisive identity politics and the routine judging of people and their cultural contributions based on their race, gender, sexuality and religion.”



Just another federalist society nutter playing with unfounded cultural political nonsense.


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Reply #807 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Just another federalist society nutter playing with unfounded cultural political nonsense.




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Allen Mendenhall

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    Associate Dean and Grady Rosier Professor in the Sorrell College of Business at Troy University,
    Executive Director, Manuel H. Johnson Center for Political Economy,
    Associated Scholar with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and
    Policy Adviser for the Heartland Institute.


https://fedsoc.org/contributors/allen-mendenhall

Allen Mendenhall is Associate Dean and Grady Rosier Professor in the Sorrell College of Business at Troy University.  He holds a B.A. in English from Furman University, M.A. in English from West Virginia University, J.D. from West Virginia University College of Law, LL.M. in transnational law from Temple University Beasley School of Law, and Ph.D. in English from Auburn University. He is an elected member and trustee of the Philadelphia Society, an associated scholar at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a policy adviser for the Heartland Institute, a former president of the Alabama Association of Scholars, and president of the Montgomery Lawyers Chapter of the Federalist Society.
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Reply #808 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 7:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Just another federalist society nutter playing with unfounded cultural political nonsense.




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https://www.heartland.org/

Allen Mendenhall

Author, Lawyer, Critic, Professor

    Associate Dean and Grady Rosier Professor in the Sorrell College of Business at Troy University,
    Executive Director, Manuel H. Johnson Center for Political Economy,
    Associated Scholar with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and
    Policy Adviser for the Heartland Institute.


https://fedsoc.org/contributors/allen-mendenhall

Allen Mendenhall is Associate Dean and Grady Rosier Professor in the Sorrell College of Business at Troy University.  He holds a B.A. in English from Furman University, M.A. in English from West Virginia University, J.D. from West Virginia University College of Law, LL.M. in transnational law from Temple University Beasley School of Law, and Ph.D. in English from Auburn University. He is an elected member and trustee of the Philadelphia Society, an associated scholar at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a policy adviser for the Heartland Institute, a former president of the Alabama Association of Scholars, and president of the Montgomery Lawyers Chapter of the Federalist Society.



A list of all the best right wing nutter groups.

The exact people who make up this garbage.
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Reply #809 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 8:00pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 7:27pm:
A list of all the best right wing nutter groups.

The exact people who make up this garbage.



OK - shoot the messenger -
don't try to refute his intellectual writings.     Roll Eyes

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