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Reply #15 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:51pm

Democracy can work reasonably well when all parties focus on issues of internal affairs. As soon as external issues dominate the debates between different parties, a democracy is doomed to fail as nationalism and populism will prevail. The political correctness becomes the king’s new clothes, political hypocrites become the leaders of parties and ultimately the leader of a nation. China is not an autocracy as in the narrative of the western media, there is democracy within the ruling party (communist party), and this party has members bigger than the population of Germany! It is less likely for China to have an incompetent leader than in a "real" democracy (plutocracy) like the US, where democracy is only the two party cartel game of the richest, out of 1%, by the 1%, and for the 1%!

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #16 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:52pm

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

There's no need for jealousy, China is a great nation, because China takes care of her people first and foremost. In the past 20yrs, China has pulled 800,000,000 of her citizens out of extreme poverty, high speed rail is second to none, infrastructure is exceptional, technological advancement are amazing, etc. , wars? What wars?

Can we say the same about U S A (NATO)?

No. The Chinese people are a great people. The CCP is the sewage the Chinese people are forced to live with.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #18 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm

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And to say that China is not a democracy is completely false. In fact, unlike Western plutocracy, China has the most successful democratic system in the world.

You stooges need to come up with a consistent spin on Chinese democracy. Most of your colleague spend all their time demonising democracy and pretending China has nothing to do with democracy.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #19 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Er....BECAUSE it is a threat.

D'oh!

Don't be arrogant and listen to a lecture before posting your moronic comments.

The word 'lecture', as you use it, has negative connotations in English. You'd might have known that if the CCP hadn't shut down English language tuition in China.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #20 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:52pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Er....BECAUSE it is a threat.

D'oh!

Don't be arrogant and listen to a lecture before posting your moronic comments.

China is a menace.

OK so we have found more professions you should not get involved in:

Life coach or Military Advisor.

NEVER underestimate your competitor or foe.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #21 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:02pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:52pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

There's no need for jealousy, China is a great nation, because China takes care of her people first and foremost. In the past 20yrs, China has pulled 800,000,000 of her citizens out of extreme poverty, high speed rail is second to none, infrastructure is exceptional, technological advancement are amazing, etc. , wars? What wars?

Can we say the same about U S A (NATO)?

No. The Chinese people are a great people. The CCP is the sewage the Chinese people are forced to live with.

CCP is great for great Chinese people.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #22 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Er....BECAUSE it is a threat.

D'oh!

Don't be arrogant and listen to a lecture before posting your moronic comments.

The word 'lecture', as you use it, has negative connotations in English. You'd might have known that if the CCP hadn't shut down English language tuition in China.

He is professor and his job is to give lecture to the people including arrogant morons like you.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #23 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:28pm

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Er....BECAUSE it is a threat.

D'oh!

Don't be arrogant and listen to a lecture before posting your moronic comments.

The word 'lecture', as you use it, has negative connotations in English. You'd might have known that if the CCP hadn't shut down English language tuition in China.

He is professor and his job is to give lecture to the people including arrogant morons like you.

Chinelish - 'He is professor and his job is to give lecture to the people including arrogant morons like you. '

English - 'He is a professor and his job is to give lectures in English, including to arrogant morons like you'.

So, not a native English-speaking professor, then.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #24 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:31pm

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:52pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

There's no need for jealousy, China is a great nation, because China takes care of her people first and foremost. In the past 20yrs, China has pulled 800,000,000 of her citizens out of extreme poverty, high speed rail is second to none, infrastructure is exceptional, technological advancement are amazing, etc. , wars? What wars?

Can we say the same about U S A (NATO)?

No. The Chinese people are a great people. The CCP is the sewage the Chinese people are forced to live with.

CCP is great for great Chinese people.

The CCP will be the destruction of the the great Chinese people.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #25 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 9:27pm

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:43pm:

The problem here is China practice real democracy, whereas countries like America and Australia do not.
Democracy means rule of the people for the people (democratic outcome), it does not mean having a vote for the figurehead president (democratic process).
As a result, Chinese government policies cares far more about long term well being of the majority, and officials are regularly reprimanded and punished for under performance.
By contrast, elected western government serves the interest in the upper class oligarchs or their colonial masters, but cares very little for the common folks. Just look at Taiwan, Detroit and Portland.

Any educated Chinese will understand why the western electoral system does deliver democracy, because this system surrendered power of the state to rich oligarchs who pull the string from behind. All of the western 'free' media is paid for and controlled by the bourgeoisie, as are the eventual election outcome.

Who in the right mind believe that a senile old man clearly suffering from dementia can effectively rule over the wealthiest country in the world, making difficult decisions on the most complex of issues. He can't, instead a bunch of unelected faceless nameless people makes those decisions for him. The elected person just acts like the president, but don't expect he can function like one.

Comrade, if you really believe this shite you are a fcukstick. However I suspect that you don't and you are only here to create drama. Roll Eyes

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #26 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 9:33pm

Belgarion wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 9:27pm:

Comrade, if you really believe this shite you are a fcukstick. However I suspect that you don't and you are only here to create drama. Roll Eyes

If he criticised the CCP in the same way, he'd be imprisoned for an indefinite time for 'causing quareles and disturbing public order' - an actual offense that can carry the penalty of the capital offense, in China under the CCP, of murder.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #27 - Aug 19^th, 2022 at 10:26am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:28pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Er....BECAUSE it is a threat.

D'oh!

Don't be arrogant and listen to a lecture before posting your moronic comments.

The word 'lecture', as you use it, has negative connotations in English. You'd might have known that if the CCP hadn't shut down English language tuition in China.

He is professor and his job is to give lecture to the people including arrogant morons like you.

Chinelish - 'He is professor and his job is to give lecture to the people including arrogant morons like you. '

English - 'He is a professor and his job is to give lectures in English, including to arrogant morons like you'.

So, not a native English-speaking professor, then.

You are not a native "Australian" and what?

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #28 - Aug 19^th, 2022 at 10:58am

Its not "seen as," it is a threat. Totalitarian governments answer to no one, therefore a handful of people at the top will make important decisions by decree. At present NK is developing ICBMs which are at the whim of the Kim family dictatorship, but Kim could not survive without Chinese Communist protection.

During the Korean War, both China and Russia were happy to deny involvement, which was a bloody lie. The Chinese Communist Party is dedicated to the overthrow of democratically elected government in Taiwan. The next would be the Philipines. At present they are getting ready to build a naval base in the Solomon Islands for the same strategic reason the Japanese did in WW2. CCP has fought with all its neighbour since they seized power. The communist myth is that they care about ordinary people. It is a system that, like a virus, is a self- replicating parasite. All of this is justified by the worn out excuse that China is threatened by colonialism. Putin has said the same thing about Russia stating that NATO wants invade.

Anyone who believes such fantasy needs to ask themselves if the Western liberal progressive better informed population would allow such aggression? But it is this same population that totalitarians believe will be a pushover. Dream on in your brainwashed delusion.

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Re: Why is China seen in the West as a threat?
Reply #29 - Aug 19^th, 2022 at 3:40pm

Belgarion wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 9:27pm:

athos wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:43pm:

The problem here is China practice real democracy, whereas countries like America and Australia do not.
Democracy means rule of the people for the people (democratic outcome), it does not mean having a vote for the figurehead president (democratic process).
As a result, Chinese government policies cares far more about long term well being of the majority, and officials are regularly reprimanded and punished for under performance.
By contrast, elected western government serves the interest in the upper class oligarchs or their colonial masters, but cares very little for the common folks. Just look at Taiwan, Detroit and Portland.

Any educated Chinese will understand why the western electoral system does deliver democracy, because this system surrendered power of the state to rich oligarchs who pull the string from behind. All of the western 'free' media is paid for and controlled by the bourgeoisie, as are the eventual election outcome.

Who in the right mind believe that a senile old man clearly suffering from dementia can effectively rule over the wealthiest country in the world, making difficult decisions on the most complex of issues. He can't, instead a bunch of unelected faceless nameless people makes those decisions for him. The elected person just acts like the president, but don't expect he can function like one.

Comrade, if you really believe this shite you are a fcukstick. However I suspect that you don't and you are only here to create drama. Roll Eyes

Dear brainwashed arrogant yobbo if you really believe your Nazi shite you are a fcukstick. However I suspect that you don't and you are only here to create confusion.
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