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Reply #1200 - May 27th, 2024 at 1:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 9:14am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 7:42am:
Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Can't get enough peace-loving Jews.

I have proposed that the UN should establish a fund so that peace-loving Jews can spend 100% of their time on procreation to explode their birth rate so all 7+ Billion world inhabitants can enjoy associating with a peace-loving Jew.



Yes and what would the Jews say if they were penned up in a small area and bombed
just like they are doing in Gaza?

Ohh hold on - the Warsaw Ghetto.   Lips Sealed



The 'palestinians' have the opportunity to get out, unlike the Warsaw Ghetto, after being checked to ensure they are not carrying bombs and guns inside their children or something..... and 'Hamas' could always surrender now and stop the killing they started.

I'm ashamed of you, Bobby.



Bullshit - no one can get out - the gates are locked.    Roll Eyes


Well - how long do they need to make their minds up.... total destruction or get out... total destruction or get out .... retribution for vile murders or get out.... either flee to Israeli hands and be fed and quartered with the kids or starve and die in the ruins......... jeez - it's a hard one...

What's their motto?  I Wanna Barter to be a Martyr?  Maybe world opinion will save us from just retribution .... when I see those young raped and murdered Israeli girls ... Let Allah Sort Them Hamas-Luvvahs Out...
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Reply #1201 - May 27th, 2024 at 2:00pm
 
Israeli Jews are still raping GTTF's mind using propaganda as a sexual appliance and filling it with perversions of reality.
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Reply #1202 - May 27th, 2024 at 2:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
As you know, I'm trying to change the economic system which the 'uniparty' is signed up to.

The electorate doesn't see the fraud they are subjected to, they keep believing electoral 'democracy' will actually facilitate change for the better;  it doesn't, it only maintains the power of certain powerful individuals. 

That's why the electorate in every democratic country is so disenchanted now.



It's a one party State -
they tell you what you need - they don't ask you.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/066/600/322/original/d0b913...

Keating = Labor ,  Kennett = Liberal.


Yes, we all know the problem as I patiently explained: 'democratic' elections are a fraud visited onto the elctorate; both Keating and Kennett are ALSO victims of the fraud, even though they were higly paid, because they genuinely believed their parties had the solution to reducing hardship in the community. 


Your attempt to blame polticians for the dysfunctional system they operate under is flawed, it's a system maintained by high wages for the pollies, to keep them from promoting the real and necessary systemic change.   



Our politicians are traitors.
They have made a mockery of our democracy.
Anything that is important is taken off the political agenda
and they leave us arguing about nonsense like homo marriage
and digital ID - and mass immigration -
to divert us from the real issues.


I presume you see mass immigration as a non "nonsense" agenda.

But you have to cut the pollies some slack, you are as confused/ignorant as them when it comes to how the economy can and should function.   
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Reply #1203 - May 27th, 2024 at 6:54pm
 

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This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
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Reply #1204 - May 27th, 2024 at 7:04pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 2:03pm:
I presume you see mass immigration as a non "nonsense" agenda.

But you have to cut the pollies some slack, you are as confused/ignorant as them when it comes to how the economy can and should function.   



That was a mistake by me -
I meant that -

Anything that is important is taken off the political agenda
and they leave us arguing about nonsense like homo marriage,

BUT mass immigration and and Digital ID - are taken off the political agenda.

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Reply #1205 - May 27th, 2024 at 10:44pm
 
Should we bring back the White Australia policy?

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Reply #1206 - May 28th, 2024 at 12:24am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 10:44pm:
Should we bring back the White Australia policy?


That is one of the most stupid questions on this forum. When colonialism ended, there was no way that we were to continue trade with those colonies unless we started to allow migration from those countries. If we abandon a non-discriminatory immigration process, then we are likely to see our trade dry up.
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Reply #1207 - May 28th, 2024 at 12:34am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:24am:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 10:44pm:
Should we bring back the White Australia policy?


That is one of the most stupid questions on this forum. When colonialism ended, there was no way that we were to continue trade with those colonies unless we started to allow migration from those countries. If we abandon a non-discriminatory immigration process, then we are likely to see our trade dry up.



John Howard,

"We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."


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Reply #1208 - May 28th, 2024 at 9:18am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:24am:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 10:44pm:
Should we bring back the White Australia policy?


That is one of the most stupid questions on this forum. When colonialism ended, there was no way that we were to continue trade with those colonies unless we started to allow migration from those countries. If we abandon a non-discriminatory immigration process, then we are likely to see our trade dry up.



John Howard,

"We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."




Well, we aren't  deciding.

Anthony Albanese must rue the day he allocated the immigration portfolio to his factional mate Andrew Giles. Yet the Prime Minister surely knew what to expect. At the 2015 ALP national conference, the pair led the fight to reject the ­Coalition’s boat turnback policy under Operation Sovereign Borders, as Geoff Chambers wrote on Monday. And in his maiden speech in 2013, Mr Giles said it was acting on behalf of the asylum-seekers on board the MV Tampa that “set firm my resolve to be heard in public life’’. That did not qualify him, however, to lead a complex portfolio demanding tough decisions that often disappoint those vying to enter or remain in Australia – including serious criminals whom most Australians, for good reason, do not want here. After months of calamities arising from the government’s inept handling of the NZYQ decision by the High Court in November that resulted in 151 non-citizens, including violent criminals, being released from indefinite detention, we argued last week that Mr Giles’s time in the job was up. Subsequent revelations about the unintended (though hardly surprising) consequences of Mr Giles’s dangerous Direction 99 reinforce the need for his departure, in the interests of public safety. More importantly, Direction 99 needs to be rescinded or overhauled immediately.

Direction 99, which Mr Giles introduced in January last year – 10 months before the High Court let hundreds of criminals out of immigration detention – instructs the Administrative Appeals Tribunal to show leniency towards overseas-born offenders when ­assessing whether their visas should be cancelled. On Monday, we reported that a child rapist who attacked his stepdaughter while his wife was giving birth was allowed to stay in Australia as a result of Mr Giles’s leniency direction for foreign-born criminals with ties to the nation.

AAT member and former Labor Speaker Anna Burke said the Direction “clearly states” tolerance for such offenders.

It also played a role in at least two cases involving migrant criminals who were allowed to stay after they claimed they were Aboriginal or accepted as Aboriginal by association to their romantic partners and children. In all cases, the offenders failed Australia’s character test and were going to be deported ­before the A­AT reinstated their visas, citing Direction 99. The Australian has uncovered dozens of such cases, arising as a result of Mr Giles’s Direction.

Another three convicted non-citizen child rapists have also been allowed to remain in the country, Paul Garvey reports. Abdul Wahab Trad, a 45-year-old Lebanese citizen who permanently relocated to Australia in 2013, escaped deportation in March over his 2020 rape of a 13-year-old girl he picked up off the side of the road in Sydney’s Bankstown. Another case, dubbed ZJFQ, involved an Afghan citizen who raped two girls, aged 16 and 14, in separate incidents in the space of six months in 2020. The AAT found a “moderate to high risk” of his committing further sexual offences. The third case, XLFM, involved a Kenya-born man who raped a 17-year-old girl and also robbed a female service station attendant, using a meat clever. Regardless of his soft heart for foreigners wanting to remain in Australia, how long can the Prime Minister tolerate the situation, putting the public at risk? If he protects his mate and fails to act when parliament resumes on Tuesday, his credibility will suffer.

As Garvey wrote on Saturday, a suspected people-smuggler, a pedophile, multiple repeat domestic violence perpetrators, drug traffickers, a kidnapper and a man who drove a stolen car into a police garage at speed are among dozens who avoided deportation because of Mr Giles’s push for greater ­leniency. Another beneficiary of the direction, Sudan-born Emmanuel Saki, allegedly stabbed ­a man to death in Queensland on Mother’s Day.

The seeds of these disasters can be found in Labor’s desire to appease New Zealand’s deficient former prime minister Jacinda Ardern, who demanded repeatedly that Australia stop deporting foreign nationals who broke the law. Her concern was that New Zealand criminals with few domestic ties would fall into her nation’s violent gang culture. Mr Giles introduced Direction 99 shortly before Ms Ardern’s Labour Party replacement as prime minister, Chris Hipkins, arrived in Australia for a visit. The consequences are now on full display.


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Reply #1209 - May 28th, 2024 at 9:23am
 
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Well, we aren't  deciding.


the govt is, that quote was speaking on behalf of it, not everyone else. if "we" really decided there would be a referendum on immigration.
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Reply #1210 - May 28th, 2024 at 11:50am
 
Had we not had emigration happening, we would have a million more people in Australia every 3 years. Our birth rates are falling below our death rates. So, if it was not for a high migration, we would see a falling population. The year 2021 proved that when we saw the population of Australia drop by about 10,000 people. Unless Australians start having larger families again, we are just going to see a population that relies on immigration.
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Reply #1211 - May 28th, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 11:50am:
Had we not had emigration happening, we would have a million more people in Australia every 3 years. Our birth rates are falling below our death rates. So, if it was not for a high migration, we would see a falling population. The year 2021 proved that when we saw the population of Australia drop by about 10,000 people. Unless Australians start having larger families again, we are just going to see a population that relies on immigration.


this does not matter especially in a resource based economy that doesn't scale with additional people

eventually birth rates will stabilise with population decline anyway

australia needs population growth like it needs a hole in the head
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Reply #1212 - May 28th, 2024 at 3:38pm
 
We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies.  The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1213 - May 28th, 2024 at 3:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies.  The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans.  Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #1214 - May 28th, 2024 at 4:26pm
 
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans.



you should move to a country that refuses to listen to Africans.
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