JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:



It isn't even about resource based economy.
It is about pensions and retirement, and th ed pool of working taxpayers to pay for it. You would not need an expanding pool of working age taxpayers if there was no state pension and welfare state to pay for the upkeep of an incresing proportion of non-working, aging population. If all retirees were fully self funded or family-funded,  you would need the immigration ponzi scheme.*

The only effect of stagnant or declining population would be higher wages and with that, higher labor force participation.

But since people in Western countries want the welfare state but not the children who would pay for it, they import third worlders as substitutes for the children they didn't want to have. They get the welfare state but they also get a complete cultural transformation of their own countries, and not for the better.



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It now costs $72,663 a year for a couple to retire comfortably and $51,630 for a single, according to the new ASFA Retirement Standard from the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia.

More than half of Australians over 65 currently rely solely on the Age Pension of $26,500 a year or $513.25 a week.

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a lot of the tax revenue comes from resources, and wages and currency exchanges are supported by exports, if you add more people you simply have to sub-divide the amount of stuff everyone 'gets' from all the wealth produced from the resource sector

this is among other things probably the principal reason gdp ppp p.c growth is now shrinking, the same thing has happened in canada to an even more advanced degree; and australia is even more dependent on resources than canada

there is no meaningful economy here that requires enormous amounts of labor input, most jobs are internally based and just service the existing population that is here without necessarily supporting a high QoL

The only way Australia politicians will be taken seriously by the rest of world is if we have a population of 65 million plus.

Until then they are just little Australian politicians.

Quickly and easily dismissed by there better.

Don't discount for a second our leaders egos.

They could care less about us and more about eventually being relevant on the world stage.

Daves2017 wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 9:43pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:


Indeed - replace it with a superannuation scheme the same as the politicians, with a guaranteed lower limit contributed per annum for each person regardless of disability and location etc.... where there is a shortfall the government makes it up to that minimum ... the funds built up can be loaned out to governments as blue chip investments, so they can build needed infrastructure and stop importing fourth worlders and third worlders, and there is the added benefit of getting rid of the freeloaders who are sucking our current super system dry for many on low incomes, via a one stop shop under tight control. 

Where there is money there will always be some scumhole who can work out how to rort it - and where is most of the money?  Why .... in government hands!  Why do you imagine every third worlder who arrives here and kicks our soil rather than kissing it wants a gig as a 'politician'?  Why do you imagine the Witness Bs* go for 'internships' and 'staff jobs?  So they can learn the ropes and make all the right connections and hope for one day getting a shot at the free money for life by being offered a safe seat ..... sixty staffers per politician..... our founding fathers had, at most five or six.

Stop The Boats And Planes!  Only accept refo claimants pending their approval....

*Bruces and Brittanys....

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:


You failed. Yet another reason you should frkk off.

yeah gnads this site really needs another thread to talk about israel and palestine there's not enough of them already