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Reply #1230 - May 29^th, 2024 at 3:11pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

why?

does japan have to accept X number of n1ggers in order to buy cobalt from democratic republic of the congo?

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Reply #1231 - May 29^th, 2024 at 4:52pm

JC Denton wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

why?

does japan have to accept X number of n1ggers in order to buy cobalt from democratic republic of the congo?

Touche` ....

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Reply #1232 - May 29^th, 2024 at 5:04pm

JC Denton wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

why?

does japan have to accept X number of n1ggers in order to buy cobalt from democratic republic of the congo?

So many juicy bits here:-

1. It wasn't a White Australia policy other than in name from some - it was a First World Immigration Policy - bring in compatible people.

2. Someone said it - what do Black African nations have to offer us and the West? A few goods - no need to import people to trade for those - their bosses won't stop trading if we cut off immigration. Show me the African country that has demanded we take their people as immigrants in order to continue to trade. FCS Britain is negotiating a Rwandan solution for all those illegal immigrants... they want to SHIP THEM OUT THERE!

3. Indeed - why is it only We Of The Full West who 'must' accept immigrants to continue in the trading that the West designed and set up? Does China accept them? Russia? Singapore? Indonesia? Afghanistan? India? Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Guatemala? Mexico? Ecuador? Cuba? All the rest .... (Lapland takes African immigrants, of course - them cagey Eskimo types)....

NO! They all want to come HERE to the West because that is where the better life is and we offer them an open hand and heart (as opposed to - say - Iran where they'd cut their hearts out and fling the gays from buildings and hang them on cranes) .... who can blame them? But there have to be limits even to our government's stupidity.

The trade would not stop - it's about money and the bosses get most of that as you know... you were lied to about the reasons for stopping First World Australia Policy and installing Third World Australia Policy (TWAP for the unwary) .....

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Reply #1233 - May 29^th, 2024 at 9:34pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

Drop out of uni, rocky.
They are making you stupid.

Flee.

Jesus would... Wink

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Reply #1236 - May 30^th, 2024 at 12:36am

Frank wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 9:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

Drop out of uni, rocky.
They are making you stupid.

Flee.

Jesus would... Wink

It is a good thing that I am not Jesus. I would be unable to deal with such a demotion down to mythology status.

Imagine if we dropped a non-discriminatory immigration policy and only had white migrants. How long would the choruses of disapproval last before we reviewed the decision about accepting white-only immigrants? I can imagine the Chinese deciding that we are too racist to continue to do trade. The Japanese, the Koreans (the south, at least), the Indians. Heck, all of the Asian nations that we trade with would likely seek out a second rate deal with some other humanitarian nation that does not discriminate against non-white people.

I dunno. There would not be a great deal of white people willing to leave their white nations to move Australia, either.

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Reply #1238 - May 30^th, 2024 at 8:27am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:36am:

Frank wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 9:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

We ended the White Australia Migration policy because we found it incompatible with our criticism of South Africa's Apartheid policies. The Australian Government listened to the criticism mainly emanating from Black African nations and changed it's policies. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, a pretty stupid move, to be guided by Africans. Look at South Africa now.... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

What sort of trade did we do with African nations? A considerable amount of the reasoning to do away with the White Australia policy was due to the emerging decolonised nations. If we were to continue to trade with them, then we would have to accept some migration from those nations.

Drop out of uni, rocky.
They are making you stupid.

Flee.

Jesus would... Wink

It is a good thing that I am not Jesus. I would be unable to deal with such a demotion down to mythology status.

Imagine if we dropped a non-discriminatory immigration policy and only had white migrants. How long would the choruses of disapproval last before we reviewed the decision about accepting white-only immigrants? I can imagine the Chinese deciding that we are too racist to continue to do trade. The Japanese, the Koreans (the south, at least), the Indians. Heck, all of the Asian nations that we trade with would likely seek out a second rate deal with some other humanitarian nation that does not discriminate against non-white people.

I dunno. There would not be a great deal of white people willing to leave their white nations to move Australia, either.

no one gives a f_ck about this, export dependent countries trade with everyone including states with no immigration at all

no one is suspending trade with the gulf arab states despite the fact that they treat their migrants entirely as slaves, segregate them from their native populations and deny them any possibility of citizenship or long term residency (unironically the smartest immigration policies on earth)

if aus had no immigration or did similarly that wouldn't change

of all the justifications ive heard why immigration is inevitable this one is the most bizarre

and no most white people would have no interest in moving here, it's not the 1950s anymore, this isn't much of a problem though because who says we need them either

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Reply #1239 - May 30^th, 2024 at 11:42am

I am not blind to the problems of where some sections of our migrant population originate. I, too, agree that there should be a selective policy of who we allow to migrate to our country. Three or four years ago, we had a stoppage of migration into the country for the sake of preventing covid infections entering the country. But, that was entirely to do with trying to get the rest of the world to let the covid virus die off before we reopened the international borders to Australia.

If we were at war or had a severe problem with certain countries, we would be justified in preventing migration or even most visitors from arriving in Australia. Certain parts of the Middle East need to fly people to France before they board a flight to Australia. For some reason there is no direct commercial flights from various Middle Eastern countries to Australia. I recall nearly 20 years ago meeting some Iranian refugees. They were here in Australia (and even live in my town) as a result of fleeing the persecution and genocide of their Christian friends and families at the hands of a brutal Islamic regime. Those refugees ended up being excellent migrants.

Over 40% of Australia's exports go to China. China imposed sanctions on certain Australian exports, due in part to Scott Morrison's call for an enquiry to the origins of covid19. And I realise that quality concerns for some products that we exported. But our exports took a big hit. China shot itself in the foot with its refusal to buy our coal. They had blackout after blackout with them not able to fuel their coal-fired power stations. But, if the Chinese can react that way to a perceived insult, imagine if the Chinese could not get 60,000 Chinese people to migrate to Australia? See ya later export industry.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Online Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24101 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Immigration Reply #1240 - May 30^th, 2024 at 11:43am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 7:46am: Jeez, Rocky - soon you'll be one of them eddicated idjits marching for Hamas... HAMAS would simply use people like me as human shields. We have nothing in common.
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Reply #1241 - May 30^th, 2024 at 12:32pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:42am:

I am not blind to the problems of where some sections of our migrant population originate. I, too, agree that there should be a selective policy of who we allow to migrate to our country. Three or four years ago, we had a stoppage of migration into the country for the sake of preventing covid infections entering the country. But, that was entirely to do with trying to get the rest of the world to let the covid virus die off before we reopened the international borders to Australia.

If we were at war or had a severe problem with certain countries, we would be justified in preventing migration or even most visitors from arriving in Australia. Certain parts of the Middle East need to fly people to France before they board a flight to Australia. For some reason there is no direct commercial flights from various Middle Eastern countries to Australia. I recall nearly 20 years ago meeting some Iranian refugees. They were here in Australia (and even live in my town) as a result of fleeing the persecution and genocide of their Christian friends and families at the hands of a brutal Islamic regime. Those refugees ended up being excellent migrants.

Over 40% of Australia's exports go to China. China imposed sanctions on certain Australian exports, due in part to Scott Morrison's call for an enquiry to the origins of covid19. And I realise that quality concerns for some products that we exported. But our exports took a big hit. China shot itself in the foot with its refusal to buy our coal. They had blackout after blackout with them not able to fuel their coal-fired power stations. But, if the Chinese can react that way to a perceived insult, imagine if the Chinese could not get 60,000 Chinese people to migrate to Australia? See ya later export industry.

why does china still trade with the persian gulf states despite them not taking in any chinese migrants and treating all their migrants they do take like sh1t?

this whole argument is really weird and confused

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Reply #1242 - May 30^th, 2024 at 12:49pm

China trades with the Gulf countries because the Gulf countries has a lot of OIL there. China also has a lot of oil. But the oil reserves and production come nowhere near the amount needed to fuel the economy of China. China is moving in to Africa little by little and acquiring the resources sector their for their own means. But, as China's population continues to decline, we are going to see the Chinese government make concessions to allow migration of Africans into China.

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Reply #1243 - May 30^th, 2024 at 1:11pm

Lmao and newsflash, we have a lot of commodities and food that they also need (china doesn't produce enough food to feed its population so it imports it from elsewhere) but righto mate they'll starve a % of their population bc according to you they will refuse to trade with a country that has no immigration. you're just doubling down on this bizarre theory now, when you're obviously digging yourself into a hole to justify a stupid idea, stop digging.

china doesn't give a n absolute f_ck whether a country takes in migrants or not, completely irrelevant to trade policy. hasn't deterred them from trading with japan etc etc etc either.

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