Not to give you too much of a scare, but Australia is a beggar nation when it comes to exporting our food and natural resources. We can gloat about having disease free meat, and good quality food, and that our schitt don't stink. But, if nations want to trade with us, they have to get over the "tyranny of distance" which is a bit of a deal breaker when it comes to exports and imports.

If the Chinese have no problems wanting to halt coal imports from Australia over a matter of Scomo questioning the origins of a coronavirus outbreak, you would imagine that China would definitely cut our exports because we won't let their citizens into Australia.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:50pm:


australia is a major exporter of commodities which is the reason the AUD is so highly valued relative to the actual size of our economy

there are few readily available substitutes for australian iron ore and coking coal for example, especially from a chinese perspective

just dump this insane theory already i'm not replying to this again

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:40pm:


lmao yeah ok genius and even if they do that it'll be over something they care about like taiwan not australia's ..... immigration policy

could you explain why you think china etc are so desperate to export people to the rest of the world at this point? china wants to retain its human capital now, and is trying to encourage population growth (though it won't succeed). immigration of ethnic chinese to countries like australia is enormously costly even with remittances considered as it deprives them of valuable human capital, that they often invested resources in to train. a lot of corrupt chinese bureaucrats also come here to launder embezzled money in australian real estate - why would it benefit china for us to allow this to keep happening?

india's exports to australia are insubstantial

"Australia Imports from India was US$6.25 Billion during 2023, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. Australia Imports from India - data, historical chart and statistics - was last updated on May of 2024."

meanwhile australia's exports to india in value are many multiples of that number; we're more important to them than they are to us

this whole thing is so hilariously speculative and even when presented with real world counter factuals of it not happening you just hand wave them or make special exceptions to keep hammering on this theory

blanket immigration restrictions on everywhere or simply not having immigration at all cannot be seen as specifically discriminatory anyway - indians wouldn't be 'singled out' by such a policy because no one would

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 10:00pm:


China is undergoing and has long undergone a process of legal immigration to other countries in the West (and the USA) as a way of colonising regions and making influence on the way China conducts business with the country where Chinese migrants have moved. Even though China is seeing a decline in population numbers, as a result of their long standing one-child, then two-child policy, China can withstand a major decline in population numbers in the hundreds of millions. Even if China's population fell to 500 million by the year 2070, they would need to have this sort of population to survive. The Chinese will run out of resources that they do have in abundance now. Whereas having a Chinese community in many different countries overseas could lead to having control of overseas industries. The Chinese are trying to do that in Africa.

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I was more interested in sports boycotts, like the Australian national cricket teams and individual players being banned from playing in India or against India -- even with India having a major role in trying to pressure other cricketing nations to ban Australia from participating in international cricket.

But, as to trade, if Australian exports to India are cut, that advantage we have over India in trade would mean many job losses to Australian industry. Perhaps it is my regional Australian background that is heavily dependant on my town's association with mining and agricultural industries. But, if we lose out in those industries, my town will quickly become a ghost town as people have to leave for other employment.

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Earlier, someone cited Arab states and Japan being countries that don't get criticised for not having a non-discriminatory immigration policy. But, having looked at Japan's population falling to 122 million, since I last checked Japan being 125 million in 2021, Japan will be reviewing their immigration to handle the fall in population. That is, unless Japan needs to see a fall in population numbers.

Arab states have a lot of ***OIL***. They hold much of the world to ransom with their general monopolisation of the oil industry. I could imagine criticism of humanitarian issues in the Gulf states would lead to trade boycotts of the critical countries. There would need to be another covid lockdown before the oil producing regions go "FCK!" at having an oversupply of oil that they basically have to give away. That is why the crude oil price has an influence on whether the soccer tournaments are not cancelled because workers don't have a WHS policy to deal with safety issues. Until you find a way to power your transportation and industries without the use of oil, you are not going to see Qatar and friends change their tune about the rights of women or foreign workers there.

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 9:45pm:

You are a moron, Bbwian.

These are your "in depth analysis", that you once claimed you excelled at providing to us, Soren?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, and you with a PhD supposedly?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

UnSubRocky wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 4:33pm:



Stop dreaming and assuming - we got us plenty of Blecks here... most of them civilised to some degree... some of 'em got businesses - some of 'em got jobs... some of 'em study ... some of 'em hold down a mortgage on a prison cell...

We also got pleny Asian - you wan' argue that?  Even got us a few Wharte folk... African fullah he bring in them trolleys...

Why are YOU fundamentally incapable of looking at an ISSUE without throwing racist epithets and assumptions around?  Too long down among the 'black activists'?  Too long deep down in the gutter with them and assuming there must be some merit in a lifestyle they refuse to let go of?  Too long being bombarded by the propaganda of how it's all Whartey's fault that they steal cars and crash to death etc, or that 76 out of 81 dead women are from their often remote communities in the Terr'uh'tree - you know - a 'cultural' thing?  Whartey causes all that?

Stay off that ganja, kid....