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Re: Immigration
Reply #1605 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 4:46pm:

How do these nationalities afford annual tuition and living expenses?
Most Australian families could not pay these fees.

The answer is they come to work from the poorer countries. And not in the qualifications they obtain in Australia. They are not professionally, linguistically, socially competent to get a job commensurate with their Australian quals. International education is an immigration racket.

They invariably borrow the money, Soren. It is their decision to do so. How did your parents afford to bring their family out from Denmark, Soren? Were they borrowers as well? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #1606 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:25pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 4:46pm:

How do these nationalities afford annual tuition and living expenses?
Most Australian families could not pay these fees.

The answer is they come to work from the poorer countries. And not in the qualifications they obtain in Australia. They are not professionally, linguistically, socially competent to get a job commensurate with their Australian quals. International education is an immigration racket.

They invariably borrow the money, Soren. It is their decision to do so.

From their wages, Soren. They are allowed to be employed while here. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

How do they pay it back? From what?

You combine ignorance and stupidity and malice.

There are requirements for demonstrating the source of funding. It has to be genuine access. They must demonstrate minimums, currently around $25k PLUS tuition fees, which are between $40k and $60k PER YEAR . They are told they cannot rely on work in Aust regalia to finance their studies.
https://www.navitas.com/study/apply/genuine-student/
https://www.sydney.edu.au/study/fees-and-loans/international-student-tuition-fee...

There is a limit to the hours student visa holders can work, 40 hours a fortnight while their course is in session.

The pay for a casual student job is around $30-40 (before tax) often much less if they work for an exploitative compatriot, cash in hand.

There is no way there are so many well to do Nepalese, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani families that can afford to pay around $75K for a child to study nursing or business in Australia and then return to their home country to work and repay the debt from their Nepalese, Bangladeshi etc wages.

They could obtain their qualifications in their own countries for a fraction of the cost. The only reason they come to Australia - and Canada, UK, Nz, US - is to stay on. It is an immigration racket.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41869	Re: Immigration Reply #1607 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:39pm Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:30pm: You combine ignorance and stupidity and malice. Gee, I could say the same thing about you, Soren. You rely on your Xenophobic Racism to replace knowledge. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #1608 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:39pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

You combine ignorance and stupidity and malice.

Gee, I could say the same thing about you, Soren. You rely on your Xenophobic Racism to replace knowledge. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41869	Re: Immigration Reply #1609 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #1610 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 4:30pm

Australia takes action on fraud in student visa system
https://monitor.icef.com/2023/08/australia-takes-action-on-fraud-in-student-visa...

Student visa factories must be driven out of business

Australian universities behave like greedy corporations

International education is voodoo economics

The latest temporary visa statistics from the Department of Home Affairs revealed 2,463,600 temporary visa holders in Australia, excluding visitors, as of 30 September 2024.

The federal government’s crackdown on overseas students is behind a giant spike in onshore refugee visa applications as students push to extend their stay in the country.
There were 10,725 applications for refugee status in the year to May, with the largest number from Chinese nationals.

Protesters have been blocking streets in Melbourne for several weeks, demanding so-called refugees on temporary visas be allowed to stay in Australia forever, and are supported and organised by a coalition of far-left extremist groups including Refugee Women Action for Visa Equality, and Socialist Alliance.

“From this perspective, recent high levels of NOM [net overseas migration] are due substantially to the low number of departures, not the number of arrivals. Departure levels remain the same as they were when the border was closed.”

Professor McDonald said that the figured resulted in a focus on reducing arrivals, whereas he believes that departures are the “real issue” with up to 100,000 immigrants on temporary visas refusing to leave, many of whom he said were “bogus asylum seekers”.

Racket is correct.

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Reply #1612 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

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Reply #1613 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:22pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-18/migration-80000-above-expectations-housin...

Migration balloons by 80,000 above expectations,
adding to housing pressures

By political reporter Jake Evans
Topic: Immigration

6h ago

In short:

Net overseas migration is expected to be 340,000 this financial year.

That figure is 80,000 above the government's expectations,

which it says is due to fewer people leaving than anticipated.

What's next?
The federal government and opposition continue to consider tightening migration, as housing supply slowly improves.

Australia's migrant population will rise above the government's expectations by 80,000 people over this financial year, adding to pressure on Australia's housing and rental markets.

The mid-year budget update has revealed net overseas migration will grow this financial year by 340,000, well above the 260,000 the government had expected.

It is still a smaller growth than the peak of 446,000 net arrivals of temporary and permanent migrants last financial year.

The government says the number of new arrivals since July has been in line with expectations, but there have been fewer departures than anticipated.

It amounts to an extra city the size of Rockhampton in Queensland or Coffs Harbour in New South Wales being added to the population above what the government had expected.

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1614 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:30pm

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

I responded, Soren. You just don't like the response. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #1615 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

I responded, Soren. You just don't like the response. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You responded by saying I don't understand, that I have a PhD and the rest.

What you DIDNT respond to is the point. You avoided that, as always. Talking cross purposes is a response, it is just not a response to the point being made.

You addressed none of the longstanding points about the student visa system being a racket, exploited and gamed. You rolled your eyed and tut tutted as you do at the end of EVERY POST (What the **** is with THAT???)

You are on Moron on Autopilot. No thought, just yawn, eyerolls, tut tut, Maggie. And "i know muslims", ffs!

You'd be ludicrous as a 10 year old, let alone as a doctor of divinity.

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Reply #1617 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

I responded, Soren. You just don't like the response. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You responded by saying I don't understand, that I have a PhD and the rest.

It was a response, Soren. It was based on how you responded to mine and others comments earlier in other posts. Are you saying now you don't have a PhD in Psychology? That you aren't an Immigrant from Denmark? You aren't Xenophobic/Racist/Islamophobic? Really? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #1618 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

I responded, Soren. You just don't like the response. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You responded by saying I don't understand, that I have a PhD and the rest.

It was a response, Soren.

Yes, a Bbwianesque response.

Where is your Doctor of Divinity degree from?

Do tell us.

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Reply #1619 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 9:31pm

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

So much for your PhD, hey, Soren? You fail dismally to show any understanding or appreciation of the problem you are describing. You really are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I have given you a detailed explanation, with links. But you are unable respond to any of it. As usual. But you are "more educated than most here", aintcha?

I should have said that you combine vanity, self-conceit, stupidity and ignorance with malice.

You fail dismally to understand or refute this.

I responded, Soren. You just don't like the response. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You responded by saying I don't understand, that I have a PhD and the rest.

It was a response, Soren.

Yes, a Bbwianesque response.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, at least I didn't dodge your post like you do, all the time, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Quote:

Where is your Doctor of Divinity degree from?

Do tell us.

Why does it matter to you? I am not dodging whether or not I have a Doctor of Divinity degree, unlike you and your now apparent PhD, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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