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Reply #1755 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 8:15pm
 

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Reply #1756 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 8:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
Leaving aside whether there’s a significant minority who don’t accept British values, liberal democracy, elements of the universal rule of law and the like, British services simply can’t keep up with the demands of this influx.

The British voted to leave the EU in part to regain control of their immigration program.

The Conservatives, especially under Boris Johnson, failed utterly to regain that control and deliver the lower immigration they promised. More than anything, that’s why the Conservatives lost office so resoundingly.

Despite the high-publicity expulsions, Starmer’s government is taking actions that will make the problem worse. It’s reinstating the right of people who arrive illegally to eventually claim citizenship. It has also made it clear that there are no circumstances under which it will leave the European Convention on Human Rights. Because that document is so vaguely worded, highly liberal British courts interpret abstract nouns in such a way as to stymie government efforts at enforcement, no matter what the electorate wants.
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Trump is regaining control of the border - and boy! do the wanker Bbwianesque ruinations and underminers of the West hate him for it!



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Reply #1757 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 8:26pm
 
Brian is a mentally negligible incontinent nappy shitters. His mental horizon stops at reposting inane memes 4354 times. To call him a moron is to overestimate him.

Ignore him.

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Reply #1758 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 9:24pm
 

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Reply #1759 - Feb 20th, 2025 at 8:15am
 
One response to the era of mass migration that I’ve written a great deal about has been what I’ve called the deculturation of our societies, the idea that in order to welcome people into our societies, we effectively have to pretend we’re uninteresting and unimportant places until migration makes us interesting.

Recently a friend of mine used an analogy to explain this to me. He said that, as a boy, he had the impression that ice cream was something whose base flavour was vanilla, and all other flavours were added on top of vanilla. It was only at some point in his youth, he said, that he discovered vanilla itself has a flavour, and a very complex flavour.

The West has created an extraordinarily complex and rich flavour, and we have spent recent years pretending we have no flavour, or that flavour is something that only other people bring to us. This is, of course, flat out wrong, but it’s been something we’ve now told more than one generation of young people in the West.

We’ve told them that we don’t really have anything very great, or if we do we ought not to talk about it much. I believe this is wrong because what we have in the cities of Europe and the West are the greatest civilisation the world has known.

(Douglas Murray at the Alliance of Responsible Citizenship conference in London.)
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Reply #1760 - Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:24pm
 
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Reply #1761 - Feb 20th, 2025 at 8:07pm
 
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Reply #1762 - Feb 22nd, 2025 at 2:41pm
 
The Australian Population Research Institute is an independent research organisation

Research report, 19 February 2025
Katharine Betts and Bob Birrell,  The divide between the elites and electorate, Australians get ready to vote—Report no. 1
The neoliberal orthodoxy of austerity does not sit well with the electorate, irrespective of their country of birth. Tapri’s survey of December 2024 shows most voters also reject the progressive values agenda associated with it. Furthermore, big majorities oppose the high levels of immigration prevailing in recent years.
Current concerns that Australia is becoming a nation of tribes, intolerant of each other, are baseless. Most overseas-born voters are just as patriotic as their Australian-born counterparts. They do not want more diversity. They value their heritage, but their priority is integration as Australian citizens.
They are uncomfortable with multiculturalism, defined as celebrating Australia as an amalgam of ethnic and indigenous communities. And, like other Australian voters, they want additional migrants to be chosen with an eye to ‘fitting into’ the community.



Tapri’s findings show that most migrants, especially those from European and English-speaking-
background migrants, have integrated into Australian society. One measure, used in the Tapri
survey, was the extent to which migrants have a strong sense of belonging to Australia.
Table 19 shows most do have a strong sense of belonging. Indeed, in the case of those born in
Europe and in English-speaking-background countries, they have a stronger sense of belonging
to Australia than do the Australian-born.

And Table 20 shows most of these voters have had enough of diversity – they want less of it
than more of it.

https://tapri.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Elites-vs-the-electorate-report1...



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Re: Immigration
Reply #1763 - Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:20pm
 

The Australian house market compared with the NZ market

It's all about IMMIGRATION

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Reply #1764 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:40am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 9:16am:
The crisis across Western politics today is that immigration has run totally out of control in three ways – its sheer size, its low-skill and sometimes culturally incompatible composition, and the grave inability of governments to protect their borders or control their immigration numbers.

In this, as in many areas of policy, the courts have become effectively the enemies of democracy.


The British government was prevented from deporting a convicted Albanian criminal back to Albania. It was deemed that such a deportation would prevent his enjoying a normal family life, which is guaranteed under the European Convention on Human Rights, of which Britain is still, balefully, a member.

The Albanian criminal’s 10-year-old son, the immigration tribunal was told, was sensitive to certain types of food. According to British press reports the only example given was that he didn’t like “foreign chicken nuggets”. So the immigration tribunal ruled it would be “unduly harsh” to remove the father from Britain as the son might go with him and suffer the indignity of foreign chicken nuggets. Therefore the Albanian criminal could stay in England. The case is ongoing.

In another case, a Nigerian woman who came to Britain in 2011 had failed in eight attempts to secure asylum status. Each time she appealed and was granted further time. Several years after her arrival in Britain she joined a group regarded as a terrorist outfit in Nigeria, the Indigenous People of Biafra.

According to British media reports, the court ruled eventually that she had joined that group solely to establish, under the international refugee convention, that she suffered “a well-grounded fear of persecution” should she return. Although the court determined her motive was to gain asylum status, it nonetheless also ruled that, because she had joined that group, she would indeed suffer persecution if returned home and so she was granted asylum in Britain.

In a third case a family of Gazans was able to convince a court to grant them residency under a program the government set up explicitly to allow Ukrainians to come to Britain.



An illegal immigrant from Turkey who was jailed for stabbing his wife to death has won the right to remain in the UK after a court found that he may face retribution from his wife’s family if returned to his homeland.

A tribunal judge has found that a convicted murderer who entered Britain illegally from Turkey should be allowed to stay in the UK after agreeing with his argument that he may face violence if returned to his country from the family of his wife, whom he killed in 2005, the Mail on Sunday reported.



Another case for the "oh, FFS!!!" file.

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Reply #1765 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:40pm
 
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Reply #1766 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:40pm:

You can have safe, orderly, and efficient airports or you can have diversity.

You can’t have both.
https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/1893725196185416025


Diverse people waiting patiently
https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/1893031034691953022


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Reply #1768 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 9:49pm
 

I watched Q&A tonight and Albanese was the only guest on the show.
He was asked about immigration but I got lost with all the numbers he mentioned.
Then he somehow put Dutton into the argument and
claimed there were more immigrants under the Liberals.
I think I'll need to wait until it's on YouTube and try to make a transcript?

He never really addressed his uncontrolled mass immigration.
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Reply #1769 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 10:19pm
 
We want the immigration that isn't bulk billed.
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