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Reply #1845 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 8:52am
 
The biggest profiteers from this system are our tertiary institutions. Universities in Australia have largely become visa mills, charging the highest visa fees in the world, representing a $40bn industry. Australia’s university administrators take home seven-figure salaries. The average vice-chancellor of one of our visa mills gets paid almost double what the Prime Minister takes home – while more and more working Australians sleep in their cars.

Big business relentlessly lobbies for higher migration as well, citing perpetual “skills shortages” as justification. The evidence regarding an apparent skills shortage tells a different story. Research from economic think tank e61 has shown that Australia’s migration program actually harms productivity, contrary to what corporate interests claim. Their analysis found “migrant workers are more likely to work in lower productivity industries, and within industries they are more likely to work at lower productivity firms” – a trend that “appears to have worsened over the decade to 2020”. What this means is that migrants with engineering degrees are not necessarily working in start-ups creating innovative new products but are more likely to be driving Ubers and doing other low-skilled jobs that ordinary Australians could do. This is why Australia’s productivity remains stagnant despite our record-breaking immigration.

While the Coalition is seeking a cap on foreign students – pegged at 30 or 35 per cent of the total student population – government intervention needs to go further.

In the short term, migration needs to be capped at levels that match housing availability. And voters must demand that our governments prioritise the housing security of Australian citizens over university profits and corporate interests.

Australia’s democracy depends on restoring the social contract that rewards work with basic dignity. Either we control our borders to match our infrastructure capacity or we continue the slide towards becoming a country where full-time work is no guarantee against homelessness.

The choice should be obvious, but our leaders seem determined to make the wrong one.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/labor-migration-failures-create-an-und...
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Reply #1846 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 12:20pm
 
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Reply #1847 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 1:45pm
 

The 'skill shortage as reason for large scale immigration '  wheeze is largely a lie, like most other spineless other lies about it:

Research from economic think tank e61 has shown that Australia’s migration program actually harms productivity, contrary to what corporate interests claim. Their analysis found “migrant workers are more likely to work in lower productivity industries, and within industries they are more likely to work at lower productivity firms” – a trend that “appears to have worsened over the decade to 2020”. What this means is that migrants with engineering degrees are not necessarily working in start-ups creating innovative new products but are more likely to be driving Ubers and doing other low-skilled jobs that ordinary Australians could do.
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Reply #1848 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 1:46pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 8:52am:
The biggest profiteers from this system are our tertiary institutions. Universities in Australia have largely become visa mills, charging the highest visa fees in the world, representing a $40bn industry. Australia’s university administrators take home seven-figure salaries. The average vice-chancellor of one of our visa mills gets paid almost double what the Prime Minister takes home – while more and more working Australians sleep in their cars.

Big business relentlessly lobbies for higher migration as well, citing perpetual “skills shortages” as justification. The evidence regarding an apparent skills shortage tells a different story. Research from economic think tank e61 has shown that Australia’s migration program actually harms productivity, contrary to what corporate interests claim. Their analysis found “migrant workers are more likely to work in lower productivity industries, and within industries they are more likely to work at lower productivity firms” – a trend that “appears to have worsened over the decade to 2020”. What this means is that migrants with engineering degrees are not necessarily working in start-ups creating innovative new products but are more likely to be driving Ubers and doing other low-skilled jobs that ordinary Australians could do. This is why Australia’s productivity remains stagnant despite our record-breaking immigration.

While the Coalition is seeking a cap on foreign students – pegged at 30 or 35 per cent of the total student population – government intervention needs to go further.

In the short term, migration needs to be capped at levels that match housing availability. And voters must demand that our governments prioritise the housing security of Australian citizens over university profits and corporate interests.

Australia’s democracy depends on restoring the social contract that rewards work with basic dignity. Either we control our borders to match our infrastructure capacity or we continue the slide towards becoming a country where full-time work is no guarantee against homelessness.

The choice should be obvious, but our leaders seem determined to make the wrong one.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/labor-migration-failures-create-an-und...


Absolutely.  Having a roof over your head is a basic human right but what we are seeing is a two tier level of society where landlords can definitely lord it over renters.  There really is no security in renting these days and tenants can be kicked out whenever the owner decides.  And where are they supposed to go in this govt created housing shortage due to unsustainable immigration levels?  It is such a major disrupter of people's lives that causes terrible anxiety especially in young children who are moved from pillar to post and school to school.  This is turn can lead to lifelong mental health issues. Everybody needs a stable environment in which they can thrive.

As for foreign students, parents are eager to get their kids into our universities because once they have that student visa, they can buy up our housing property.  No foreigners should be able to buy our housing especially in a housing crisis and although foreign buyers are supposed to only buy off the plan new housing, they can easily get around purchasing existing properties.  My son's property manager was telling him that his clients are now 80% Chinese. Also foreign students are able to get housing loans here.

I really am sick of govts and big business deciding what our immigration levels should be.  At the moment there really is no benefit in being born an Australian citizen.
   
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Reply #1849 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:02pm
 
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Reply #1850 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:02pm:

Good boy, Bbwiyawn.  See?  This is more like your natural level of intelligence.

When you try words you just show what an eyewateringly stupid moron you are.
So stick to being a meme posting imbecile, that's really your natural expression of your mental life.

Carry on.

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Reply #1851 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:38pm
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren.  You claim to have a PhD but display no ability to analyse why someone reacts the way they do to what your spouting.  What a WOFTAM you are, you have no ability except to engage in a Tourettes Syndrome of invective and ad huminem insults to any one who holds a contrary opinion to what you are claiming.  You invariably spout Racist, Xenophobic bullshit from overseas rather than engage in real debate about Australia and it's society. You don't belong here, you belong in Denmark. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1852 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:38pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren.  You claim to have a PhD but display no ability to analyse why someone reacts the way they do to what your spouting.  What a WOFTAM you are, you have no ability except to engage in a Tourettes Syndrome of invective and ad huminem insults to any one who holds a contrary opinion to what you are claiming.  You invariably spout Racist, Xenophobic bullshit from overseas rather than engage in real debate about Australia and it's society. You don't belong here, you belong in Denmark. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Bugger off, inane nappy shitter.  Posting your idiotic twilight zone and yawny memes is NOT engaging in real debate, you moron, nor is it expressing anything but your inarticulate stupidity.

So pull your stupid, damaged head in, Bbwiyawn. You speak for nobody but the brain damaged nappy shitter demographic of one - you.
Oh, and maybe gweggy creep, arse bandit paki, KangaMonga and Duckwit McPea. And Carla D and Phil the Poison Pill of Perth. Oh, and Smiff and Mothra McMuff.

But that's IT!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  nobody else!


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Reply #1853 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
Don't hold back so much, boys - just say it like you feel it....

Hmm - might be a chance to cop a retired Abrams tank - just the thing for the elephant's graveyard car parks around here!!

As for immigration - clearly the way ahead is to cut way back on mass importation, and instead take in Guest Workers on visas, while reviewing the entire set of issues surrounding ethnicity, religion, and other issues that affect assimilation, and to start getting rid of all the dead wood and troublemakers, either by deportation or exile.

Pity it's against international law to exile people unless they have a state to go to... citizenship.. buggar.  Dual citizens are fair game, though....
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Reply #1854 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 2:38pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren.  You claim to have a PhD but display no ability to analyse why someone reacts the way they do to what your spouting.  What a WOFTAM you are, you have no ability except to engage in a Tourettes Syndrome of invective and ad huminem insults to any one who holds a contrary opinion to what you are claiming.  You invariably spout Racist, Xenophobic bullshit from overseas rather than engage in real debate about Australia and it's society. You don't belong here, you belong in Denmark. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Bugger off, inane nappy shitter.  Posting your idiotic twilight zone and yawny memes is NOT engaging in real debate, you moron, nor is it expressing anything but your inarticulate stupidity.

So pull your stupid, damaged head in, Bbwiyawn. You speak for nobody but the brain damaged nappy shitter demographic of one - you.
Oh, and maybe gweggy creep, arse bandit paki, KangaMonga and Duckwit McPea. And Carla D and Phil the Poison Pill of Perth. Oh, and Smiff and Mothra McMuff.

But that's IT!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  nobody else!


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Reply #1855 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:42pm:


I don't remember anyone saying it was. Your point?
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Reply #1856 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:08pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Bugger off, inane nappy shitter.  Posting your idiotic twilight zone and yawny memes is NOT engaging in real debate, you moron, nor is it expressing anything but your inarticulate stupidity.

So pull your stupid, damaged head in, Bbwiyawn. You speak for nobody but the brain damaged nappy shitter demographic of one - you.
Oh, and maybe gweggy creep, arse bandit paki, KangaMonga and Duckwit McPea. And Carla D and Phil the Poison Pill of Perth. Oh, and Smiff and Mothra McMuff.

But that's IT!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  nobody else!




Careful, Frank.

You'll pop a blood vessel if you keep that up.

(I'll just grab my popcorn, sit back and wait for another Sunday evening of lame Frank insults).

Grin
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Reply #1857 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:16pm
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:08pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Bugger off, inane nappy shitter.  Posting your idiotic twilight zone and yawny memes is NOT engaging in real debate, you moron, nor is it expressing anything but your inarticulate stupidity.

So pull your stupid, damaged head in, Bbwiyawn. You speak for nobody but the brain damaged nappy shitter demographic of one - you.
Oh, and maybe gweggy creep, arse bandit paki, KangaMonga and Duckwit McPea. And Carla D and Phil the Poison Pill of Perth. Oh, and Smiff and Mothra McMuff.

But that's IT!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  nobody else!




Careful, Frank.

You'll pop a blood vessel if you keep that up.

(I'll just grab my popcorn, sit back and wait for another Sunday evening of lame Frank insults).

Grin


And the inane Bwyawn memes in response. Sounds like a night to remember. I wouldn't encourage either.
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Reply #1858 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:37pm
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:42pm:


I don't remember anyone saying it was. Your point?


Seems you don't read what Soren says, hey, Setanta?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1859 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 6:42pm:


I don't remember anyone saying it was. Your point?


Seems you don't read what Soren says, hey, Setanta?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sure I do, I just don't see him claiming to be funny or witty. You obviously do though.
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