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Re: Immigration
Reply #735 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:45pm:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

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To be fair I was told back in 2021 a big immigration increase was being planned post Pandemic by economists attached to numerous departments.

oh wow the immigration economists have concluded that this is all good for us. never mind everyone feeling the consequences of it saying otherwise, the experts have weighed in: the big aggregate line has gone up, therefore good. we should all rejoice we're in the stewardship of such brilliant people.

Mass immigration in Australia.
My opinion/theory.

There is something going on.
I can only speculate that the Banks are fearful about their
over exposure to the property market - which is a Ponzi scheme -
so they need more participants to prop it up.
They have put pressure on the Govt so there
won't be a banking collapse -
that means mass immigration to put pressure on housing
and drive up prices.

there's a million different reasons for it. it doesnt matter what they all are, all that matters is it is happening and it's not good.

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Reply #736 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:54pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

there's a million different reasons for it.
it doesnt matter what they all are, all that matters is it is happening and it's not good.

Well - it's not good for renters or people buying property.

It may have been good if it stopped a banking collapse -
imagine all 4 main banks going bankrupt?
However it may just be a temporary escape for them.
I've heard talk of Banks in the USA under large pressure right now too.

I also hear that our largest bank CBA is being bought out by a Queensland super fund.
There is something big going on and you heard about it first on Ozpolitic.

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Reply #737 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

goosecat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:29pm:

It's no different to any other reality. Geologists knowing drill sample results before the market, staff knowing political decisions coming up, Crypto Whales pre reading order books (which also happens in traditional markets by the way). Insiders knowing merger and acquisition info etc etc. You can't keep everything secret (well maybe at absolute elite levels etc); some of it gets out. The best efforts however are obviously required.

It's still insider trading or the equivalent of it. Roll Eyes

Well that would need to be investigated and proven Wink

. For every inside trade prosecution you hear of; how many thousands do you think actually occur daily? Society does the best it can I guess.

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Reply #738 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby you don't want to admit that you're an ignorant stirrer, do you? Such a silly little man, who didn't read what the major parties published as far as their policies were and yet your still surprised that they dared to carry them out. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Link?

I never read it anywhere. tsk tsk tsk ... Roll Eyes

Then you're not looking very hard, are you, Bobby.

Try here: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_...

Australian Labor Party – Immigration Policy, 1966

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Arrrrhh - so Labor Party has incredible difficulty bringing its public service heroes into line and order ... and this despite the fact that they 'own' the heads of departments by having them on 'contract' - just a way of giving old school tie mates, school pinafore friends, bum chums, tongue chums etc a free ride out of the public purse - and STILL they can't control them... Grin

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Reply #739 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:04pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Arrrrhh - so Labor Party has incredible difficulty bringing its public service heroes into line and order ... and this despite the fact that they 'own' the heads of departments by having them on 'contract' - just a way of giving old school tie mates, school pinafore friends, bum chums, tongue chums etc a free ride out of the public purse - and STILL they can't control them... Grin

No fudge packers in the Public service. Grin

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Reply #740 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:17pm

goosecat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

goosecat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:29pm:

It's no different to any other reality. Geologists knowing drill sample results before the market, staff knowing political decisions coming up, Crypto Whales pre reading order books (which also happens in traditional markets by the way). Insiders knowing merger and acquisition info etc etc. You can't keep everything secret (well maybe at absolute elite levels etc); some of it gets out. The best efforts however are obviously required.

It's still insider trading or the equivalent of it. Roll Eyes

Well that would need to be investigated and proven Wink

. For every inside trade prosecution you hear of; how many thousands do you think actually occur daily? Society does the best it can I guess.

Why invest unless you have insider info?
You might as well go to a casino.

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Reply #742 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:57pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:34pm:

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It may have been good if it stopped a banking collapse -

at some point we have to come to grips with the reality that this unsustainable ponzi scheme cannot continue forever, it might as well be sooner than later

Whichever ethnicity will become dominant after Europeans will put an end to it.

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Reply #743 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:06pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:34pm:

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It may have been good if it stopped a banking collapse -

at some point we have to come to grips with the reality that this unsustainable ponzi scheme cannot continue forever, it might as well be sooner than later

yes - a banking contagion could start in the USA and spread to here too.
That's what happened in the last GFC in 2009.
That was all about overvalued property.

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Reply #744 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:29pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:57pm:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 2:34pm:

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It may have been good if it stopped a banking collapse -

at some point we have to come to grips with the reality that this unsustainable ponzi scheme cannot continue forever, it might as well be sooner than later

Whichever ethnicity will become dominant after Europeans will put an end to it.

the indians won't be able to deal with it as well as we would and it'll blow up 10x as bad in their face

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Reply #745 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby you don't want to admit that you're an ignorant stirrer, do you? Such a silly little man, who didn't read what the major parties published as far as their policies were and yet your still surprised that they dared to carry them out. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Link?

I never read it anywhere. tsk tsk tsk ... Roll Eyes

Then you're not looking very hard, are you, Bobby.

Try here: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_...

Australian Labor Party – Immigration Policy, 1966

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Ohh come on Brian we've had over 1 million immigrants since the end of Covid and
another half a million on their way this year.

Those figures don't say that. tsk tsk tsk .... Roll Eyes

Figures are not important, Bobby, what is important is that both Parties had essentially the same policy. Now, you can accept that you're an ignorant fool who doesn't read what the Parties publish or you can keep carping, "I didn't know what they were planning!" All the time. Who's the fool in that case, you or the Political Parties? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #746 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby you don't want to admit that you're an ignorant stirrer, do you? Such a silly little man, who didn't read what the major parties published as far as their policies were and yet your still surprised that they dared to carry them out. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Link?

I never read it anywhere. tsk tsk tsk ... Roll Eyes

Then you're not looking very hard, are you, Bobby.

Try here: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_...

Australian Labor Party – Immigration Policy, 1966

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Ohh come on Brian we've had over 1 million immigrants since the end of Covid and
another half a million on their way this year.

Those figures don't say that. tsk tsk tsk .... Roll Eyes

Figures are not important, Bobby, what is important is that both Parties had essentially the same policy. Now, you can accept that you're an ignorant fool who doesn't read what the Parties publish or you can keep carping, "I didn't know what they were planning!" All the time. Who's the fool in that case, you or the Political Parties? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

we don't give a sh_t what the parties have tucked away on their websites we all know - even you seemingly do - that they want as much immigration driven population growth as they have the political capital to pump in, we, being perceptive, intelligent non-insane human beings, not including you, don't want that and want them to f_ck off with it. and you too.

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Reply #747 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:44pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 3:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby you don't want to admit that you're an ignorant stirrer, do you? Such a silly little man, who didn't read what the major parties published as far as their policies were and yet your still surprised that they dared to carry them out. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Link?

I never read it anywhere. tsk tsk tsk ... Roll Eyes

Then you're not looking very hard, are you, Bobby.

Try here: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_...

Australian Labor Party – Immigration Policy, 1966

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Ohh come on Brian we've had over 1 million immigrants since the end of Covid and
another half a million on their way this year.

Those figures don't say that. tsk tsk tsk .... Roll Eyes

Figures are not important, Bobby, what is important is that both Parties had essentially the same policy. Now, you can accept that you're an ignorant fool who doesn't read what the Parties publish or you can keep carping, "I didn't know what they were planning!" All the time. Who's the fool in that case, you or the Political Parties? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

we don't give a sh_t what the parties have tucked away on their websites we all know - even you seemingly do - that they want as much immigration driven population growth as they have the political capital to pump in, we, being perceptive, intelligent non-insane human beings, not including you, don't want that and want them to f_ck off with it. and you too.

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Reply #748 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 4:01pm

The more I argued with Brian, the better I came to know his dialectic. First he counted on the stupidity of his adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, he simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, he pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, he changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, he immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, posted yawning emojis and then Maggie Smith memes in an attempt to affect condesension and intellectual superiority. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck him so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. He had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: his serial incapacity to comprehend anything put before him, or his virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I grew to hate him.

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Reply #749 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 4:50pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

The more I argued with Brian, the better I came to know his dialectic. First he counted on the stupidity of his adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, he simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, he pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, he changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, he immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, posted yawning emojis and then Maggie Smith memes in an attempt to affect condesension and intellectual superiority. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck him so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. He had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: his serial incapacity to comprehend anything put before him, or his virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I grew to hate him.

Ah... but he bought a mail-order Doctor of Divinity printout and you didn't. And had a stroke which you didn't either. AND he knows a Muslim bloke from the 90s. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

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