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Reply #750 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 5:01pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 4:01pm:
The more I argued with Brian, the better I came to know his dialectic. First he counted on the stupidity of his adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, he simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, he pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, he changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, he immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, posted yawning emojis and then Maggie Smith memes in an attempt to affect condesension and intellectual superiority. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck him so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. He had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: his serial incapacity to comprehend anything put before him, or his virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I grew to hate him.


I do not hate you, I pity you.  You are like Soren, trapped by your own Racist views and beliefs rather than rational, scientific ones.  You are foolish in the extreme, EmpNat.  You refuse to think about matters, except in a Racist, silly, manner.  You, like Bobby have access to to so much knowledge for free on the web but you still come to the wrong conclusions.  I find you remarkable in your conclusions.  Utterly strange and weird when faced with reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #751 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 5:22pm
 
So it's 'racist' now to say there are too many people coming here even when the objection is not on racial grounds but on grounds of disaster to society and economy and devastation of families etc?

How about some of these fanciful 'economists' get their arse out there and enjoy the peace and quiet of Tent City before it all fades away....  half these milquetoast pricks should be hung - the other half whipped in public - though they'd probably like that....

Time to march on the sitadels!!!
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Reply #752 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm
 
you wouldn't know rational and scientific if it bit you on the ass brian
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Reply #753 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 5:01pm:
I do not hate you, I pity you.  You are like Soren, trapped by your own Racist views and beliefs rather than rational, scientific ones.  You are foolish in the extreme, EmpNat.  You refuse to think about matters, except in a Racist, silly, manner.  You, like Bobby have access to to so much knowledge for free on the web but you still come to the wrong conclusions.  I find you remarkable in your conclusions.  Utterly strange and weird when faced with reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #754 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm:
you wouldn't know rational and scientific if it bit you on the ass brian


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Reply #755 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 8:08pm
 

Margret Thatcher on mass immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Taf3OyQC4i0
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Reply #756 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm
 
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

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Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

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https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237



Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme
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Reply #757 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 10:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 8:08pm:
Margret Thatcher on mass immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Taf3OyQC4i0


she pushed it pretty hard in the uk too. they all say this b.s but when they're in office it flows just as much under anyone else
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Reply #758 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 8:48am
 
Alarm as migration likely to reach historic high


Expected to be higher than 518,000, the previous record, and at risk of even ticking over 600,000, the new numbers are likely to further fuel anxiety about increasing immigration in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The latest net overseas migration numbers will be released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Thursday.

The total number of arrivals could exceed the previous record of 157,684 in the March 2023 quarter. But experts believe the record migration that has driven a sharp rise in rents may have peaked, with the number of foreign visa holders expected to decline as visas expire and stricter rules take effect.

The government said it would not be surprised by arrival numbers above 150,000 for the September quarter on Thursday, which could push net migration for the year well over the previous record.
AFR, Mar 20, 2024
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/labor-alarm-as-migration-likely-to-reach-historic-high-20240320-p5fdz7
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Reply #759 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 8:52am
 
Sensitive to community concerns about the pace of new arrivals, Labor scrambled to announce this Saturday as the start date for tough new English-language requirements for student and graduate visas, with a new genuine student test also set to come into force for the first time.

To avoid visitor visas being used to get around integrity checks by the Department of Home Affairs, Labor said it would increase the use of “no further stay” conditions on visitor visas – blocking individuals from transferring to other visa categories in order to stay in the country longer.

This will affect thousands of students, most of whom come from India, who arrive on a tourist or other visa and then shift to a student visa once in Australia.

The government has also put dodgy colleges on notice. In the coming weeks, the worst offenders, which use their shopfronts as a way of channelling so-called students into the workforce, have been threatened with being shut down if they have not fixed their ways within six months.

However, the government has had such powers since 2001 and never used them. The regulator, the Australian Skills Quality Authority, also has powers to shut down dodgy colleges, however, most end up in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/labor-alarm-as-migration-likely-to-reach-hi...

International "education" is 80% immigration scam, 20% education.


The minimum annual living expenses you must demonstrate is $25k
Annual tuition fees at a uni: $30-$55k (nursing ACU - commerce UNSW)

Most Australian families could not spare such expenses for 3-4 years. Apparently hundreds of thousands of Indian, Nepalese, Chinese, Pakistani families can.
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Reply #760 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:26am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

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Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

Who voted for this?

https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237


Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme

No, it doesn't, not by a long shot...

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/net-migration-rate/country-comparis...

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Reply #761 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:32am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:26am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

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Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

Who voted for this?

https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237


Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme

No, it doesn't, not by a long shot...

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/net-migration-rate/country-comparis...

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Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be silly, Guff.

Who exactly is migrating to Syria and Ukraine? Afghans and the Russian Army? Use your head, don't just go by the numbers, blindly.



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Reply #762 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:13am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:26am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

Quote:
Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

Who voted for this?

https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237


Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme

No, it doesn't, not by a long shot...

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/net-migration-rate/country-comparis...

Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be silly, Guff.

Who exactly is migrating to Syria and Ukraine? Afghans and the Russian Army? Use your head, don't just go by the numbers, blindly.

Well Frank, we have only the statistics to rely on for our information,
and I chose to accept the World Factbook as a reliable source.

Do you have a more reliable source?    Please let us know.    Cool

At any rate, I was simply debunking the stupid claim that Australia
has the highest immigration rate in the world.  My link disproved that.

   (BTW, I'm not sure if you're maybe dyslexic, but my name's actually Geoff.)


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Reply #763 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:38am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:13am:
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:26am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

Quote:
Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

Who voted for this?

https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237


Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme

No, it doesn't, not by a long shot...

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/net-migration-rate/country-comparis...

Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be silly, Guff.

Who exactly is migrating to Syria and Ukraine? Afghans and the Russian Army? Use your head, don't just go by the numbers, blindly.

Well Frank, we have only the statistics to rely on for our information,
and I chose to accept the World Factbook as a reliable source.

Do you have a more reliable source?    Please let us know.    Cool

At any rate, I was simply debunking the stupid claim that Australia
has the highest immigration rate in the world.  My link disproved that.

   (BTW, I'm not sure if you're maybe dyslexic, but my name's actually Geoff.)





those net migration numbers are ranking by immigration level AND emigration level in the same category table ffs, south sudan and ukraine do not have net immigration but net emigration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_net_migration_rate

australia's immigration rate is one of the absolute highest behind only a few countries. and in australia's case those are mostly actual immigrants; veneuzela's high net 'immigration' for example is due to native venezuelans increasingly returning to venezuela, not really migrants at all. presumably that's true for syria as well.
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Reply #764 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:44am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:13am:
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:26am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Former NSW Labor Premier Bob Carr interview

Quote:
Did you know that Australia has the highest rates of immigration in the world:

Who voted for this?

https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1769182841412428237


Former Labor leader calling out AnAls immigration Ponzi scheme

No, it doesn't, not by a long shot...

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/net-migration-rate/country-comparis...

Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be silly, Guff.

Who exactly is migrating to Syria and Ukraine? Afghans and the Russian Army? Use your head, don't just go by the numbers, blindly.

Well Frank, we have only the statistics to rely on for our information,
and I chose to accept the World Factbook as a reliable source.

Do you have a more reliable source?    Please let us know.    Cool

At any rate, I was simply debunking the stupid claim that Australia
has the highest immigration rate in the world.  My link disproved that.

   (BTW, I'm not sure if you're maybe dyslexic, but my name's actually Geoff.)



Yoiu debunked nothing, Guff, except the idea that your mind is in gear when you are looking at stats.

Syria, Ukraine, South Sudan, venezuela are not big immigratin destination - but have had a lot of refugee movements. Does that mean that they have a larger immigration program than Australia? Of course not.

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