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Reply #825 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 10:25pm
 
Denton,
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it has no bearing on whether people are actually materially better off


People without a home - people renting or
living in their cars or under a bridge are not better off.

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Reply #826 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 11:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 10:25pm:
Denton,
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it has no bearing on whether people are actually materially better off


People without a home - people renting or
living in their cars or under a bridge are not better off.



tell that to thicko
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Reply #827 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:48am
 
A hardworking, law-abiding South Australian family face being split and a mother threatened with deportation to Scotland as the Immigration Department refuses to budge over an innocent computer error.

The Grigg family of Adelaide fear being split by the ruling, with mum Kirsty, a Scottish national, told she must leave the country by April 9, leaving behind citizen husband Nick and their two teenage children, Stevie and Ben, in Australia.

With the department under fire over its management of freed criminal non-citizens – several of whom have reoffended since their release – the harsh treatment of this decent family looms as another immigration headache for the Albanese government.

The case has parallels with that of the Green family in Adelaide. Electrician Mark Green narrowly avoided deportation to Scotland last year after a visa bungle caused by a bankrupt former employer.
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Mr Grigg told The Australian his wife’s visa problems began last year due to an innocent computer error. He had been uploading information to the Immigration Department portal in support of a partner visa subclass 820 using a “save and close” form similar to a passport application.

Without his knowledge, the department’s IT system processed the application before it was complete and rejected it, but the rejection email went to his wife’s spam folder.

The first the Griggs knew of the rejection came inadvertently via Medicare, when they received a letter on December 23 saying Mrs Grigg, Stevie and Ben were no longer eligible for Medicare benefits on account of the Immigration Department ruling.

Since then the family have been locked in a bureaucratic hell trying to resolve the matter.

“After we got the Medicare letter we rang Immigration and were told that Kirsty’s application had been rejected and to check our emails,” Mr Grigg told The Australian. “We searched our emails, eventually finding the notice of rejection in her spam folder. We immediately appealed online that day, only to be told three weeks later by the AAT that we had missed the deadline by six days.”

Since then the family have employed a migration agent and Mr Grigg has also started a landscaping business to cover the costs of their ordeal.

While the family are confident their children will be able to stay through the “citizenship by descent” process, the Immigration Department is so far refusing to budge on Mrs Grigg’s case, meaning she must leave Australia alone, or the family must pull their children out of high school so they can all leave together.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/family-fear-as-mum-faces-deport...

She is white and a native English speaker, that's the problem. If they were all illegal boat arrivals from Bangladesh the pink-haired brigade would be marching on the streets for them.
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Reply #828 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:01am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:48am:
She is white and a native English speaker, that's the problem



and she is an illegal
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Reply #829 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:01am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:48am:
She is white and a native English speaker, that's the problem



and she is an illegal

She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and so she is menaced with threats of deportation.

Hundreds of illegal third worlders who came illegally via people smugglers, committed crimes and are useless to Australia and the shiteholes they left behind - impossible to deport so they let them loose.


An arrangement that pleases only Laborite poons like you, thicko Smiff.
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Reply #830 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:36am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am:
She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and


illegal
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Reply #831 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:45am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am:
She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and


illegal


That wouldn't matter to you, would it?



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Reply #832 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:50am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:01am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:48am:
She is white and a native English speaker, that's the problem



and she is an illegal

She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and so she is menaced with threats of deportation.

Hundreds of illegal third worlders who came illegally via people smugglers, committed crimes and are useless to Australia and the shiteholes they left behind - impossible to deport so they let them loose.


An arrangement that pleases only Laborite poons like you, thicko Smiff.


illegal [/quote]

Look, thicko poon is doing the well-known Bbwian/TGD/turdy 'repeat inane, lying crap endlessly' routine.
Gissa yawn, thick as lotsa planks. Go on.

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Reply #833 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 11:45am
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
goosecat wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 3:11pm:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 3:00pm:
goosecat wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
My take is; every level of the populace from low to high and in between, debate this topic right through history. Looking around the world it is definitely possible to have low immigration (in some cases in successful Ist world European countries almost no immigration) and still be an economic and societal success. The disadvantage for Australia is sheer distance and market size. The basic argument is we have to go big to give any hope for scale and profit for businesses from around the world bearing the "distance" and small market for the location. European countries have the whole continent really as their market location of stuff all distance. For us it's grow or stay ever left behind as a choice for world business and consequent investment other than Houses and Holes.


aus has barely benefited from population increase or 'upscaling' at all, it certainly doesn't matter compared to resource wealth extraction being diluted by additional people

Fair point. Like most things I'm somewhere in the middle. The right balance and amount of TARGETTED immigration can be good for everyone I think. Part of that balance includes housing and infrastructure obviously.


which means what? whats the right amount, the right balance, and why is it good for everyone? it hasn't been good for anyone except the people migrating here for the last 25 years, and quite frankly much longer than that.



And immigrants like to send money back to families in countries of origin


Australia remittance statistics reveal that the country’s remittance outflow heavily outweighs the inflow of remittances, year by year. According to the most recent available data (2023), $6.546 billion were sent out as remittances from Australia to countries across the world.


The bulk of it going to India

Remittance from Australia will increase as immigration numbers increase. It hit a peak in 2019 and went down in following years, but is climbing back up again




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Reply #834 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 12:58pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:45am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am:
She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and


illegal


That wouldn't matter to you, would it?





Depends, Does it make you cry?
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Reply #835 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 1:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:50am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:13am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 10:01am:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:48am:
She is white and a native English speaker, that's the problem



and she is an illegal

She is employed, English speaking, white,  married with two kids in school, husband is an Australian citizen as are the kiddies - and so she is menaced with threats of deportation.

Hundreds of illegal third worlders who came illegally via people smugglers, committed crimes and are useless to Australia and the shiteholes they left behind - impossible to deport so they let them loose.


An arrangement that pleases only Laborite poons like you, thicko Smiff.


illegal


Look, thicko poon is doing the well-known Bbwian/TGD/turdy 'repeat inane, lying crap endlessly' routine.
Gissa yawn, thick as lotsa planks. Go on.

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are you saying she's not an illegal? ya dumbarse Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #836 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 3:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
are you saying she's not an illegal? ya dumbarse Cheesy Cheesy



She is not illegal.


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Reply #837 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 5:31pm
 
From 2011 - every word is true 13 years later.





People want significantly lower levels of immigration. They do not want wild diversity of hordes of people who do not fit in and never will. 

NOBODY wants immigrants whose values are openly antithetical to everything Australians love and value.
Except the ABC and the Greens and their noisy, activist audience.


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Reply #839 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 9:51pm
 
Soren, it might surprise you but Australia is not part of Europe so why are you posting about Europe in a thread in a forum devoted to Australia?  Are you that Geographically challenged, are you losing the argument so you need to shift the argument to Europe in order to win?  I wonder about your mental processes, perhaps you belong back in Denmark?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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