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Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Sep 8^th, 2022 at 10:35pm

Vaccine-boosted adults twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID

WWW search....
Vaccine-boosted adults twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID

[sarcastically....]

But surely that report cannot be correct !!??

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Critical thinking....

"The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name."
- Confucius

They are not vaccines.

Those injections are putting 'something' into the bodies of those who are willingly rolling up their sleeves.

But those injections do not fit the dictionary definition of what a 'vaccine' is, and what a 'vaccine' should accomplish.

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From the Oxford Dictionary.....

WORDS.....

vaccinate

immunise

immune

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n.b.
EXAMINE THE TRADITIONAL, AND REAL DEFINITION,
OF THE WORD VACCINATE !!!!!

Dictionary;
vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.

Dictionary;
immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation.

Dictionary;
immune = =
1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
2 not susceptible.

Pfiser, and Moderna, et al, imo, are not supplying the world, with any kind of product which could be characterised as being a 'VACCINE'.

i.e.
Because everyone knows that these products [these 'injections'] do not 'work' [as vaccines, they do not protect, against 'COVID', whatever 'COVID' is] !!

AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT !!!!

YET, THE VAST MAJORITY, REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

AND, THE VAST MAJORITY, ARE GOING ALONG [to get along] WITH THE EMPEROR WEARING NO CLOTHES.

EMPEROR, ....NO CLOTHES.

"The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name."
- Confucius

What we are being told, are 'COVID' vaccines, and 'boosters', ....are NOT vaccines.

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0ktema Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 674	Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Reply #1 - Sep 9^th, 2022 at 7:28pm This thread goes to show why an understanding statistics is vital to clear thinking! In this instance viewing hospitalizations by total numbers, rather than percentage per cohort, is purposefully deceptive. Yadda, what's the difference between deception and sin?
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greggerypeccary

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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #2 - Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:15pm

0ktema wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

This thread goes to show why an understanding statistics is vital to clear thinking!
In this instance viewing hospitalizations by total numbers, rather than percentage per cohort, is purposefully deceptive.

Yadda, what's the difference between deception and sin?

The problem with these anti-vax/science/mask idiots is that they're too stupid to realise that what they're posting is deceptive.

This pandemic really has shown us just how stupid people can really be.

And it's frightening.

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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Reply #3 - Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:21pm Is this why there is no 'Report' button in this forum? Doesn't facebook and other social media ban posters like this? Is Yadda the Owner trolling us all? That would explain it.
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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #4 - Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

0ktema wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

This thread goes to show why an understanding statistics is vital to clear thinking!
In this instance viewing hospitalizations by total numbers, rather than percentage per cohort, is purposefully deceptive.

Yadda, what's the difference between deception and sin?

The problem with these anti-vax/science/mask idiots is that they're too stupid to realise that what they're posting is deceptive.

This pandemic really has shown us just how stupid people can really be.

And it's frightening.

That is a bit harsh.

It is a psychological reality that is quite normal.
Your brain gets better at finding what you look for the longer you look for it
Once looking for 'conspiracy' theories you will 'see' many of them.
It's like when you buy a yellow car, suddenly you see many of them.

It's a case of finding what suits your ideas and discarding anything else.
Some of the world has become narrow minded and polarised.
On the net you can find a group/site to support any idea you want.

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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #5 - Sep 9^th, 2022 at 10:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

0ktema wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

This thread goes to show why an understanding statistics is vital to clear thinking!
In this instance viewing hospitalizations by total numbers, rather than percentage per cohort, is purposefully deceptive.

Yadda, what's the difference between deception and sin?

The problem with these anti-vax/science/mask idiots is that they're too stupid to realise that what they're posting is deceptive.

That's true.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

This pandemic really has shown us just how stupid people can really be.

That's true.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

And it's frightening.

That's true.

It frightens me !!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14136 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Reply #6 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 2:30pm Yadda wrote on Sep 8^th, 2022 at 10:35pm: Vaccine-boosted adults twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID So, where's the URL you lazy little princess ? I'm not doing your fu ck ing research and homework for you !
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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #7 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 3:19pm

I will try to help you out given that you get confused by science.

Here are some updated figures

NSW Health COVID-19 Critical Intelligence Unit: COVID-19 Monitor, 26 May 2022

Rates per million
Hospital rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 679.0 / 143.9
COVID-19 patients in ICU, as at 22 May 4.2
ICU rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 44.7 / 3.5

Given that there were 17 unvaxxed for every 83 vaxxed (at that time), that means that if there was equal numbers of each group, you would have approx five times more likely to be in ICU with no vaccination.

Does that help?

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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #8 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 3:37pm

random wrote on Sep 17^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

I will try to help you out given that you get confused by science.

Here are some updated figures

NSW Health COVID-19 Critical Intelligence Unit: COVID-19 Monitor, 26 May 2022

Rates per million
Hospital rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 679.0 / 143.9
COVID-19 patients in ICU, as at 22 May 4.2
ICU rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 44.7 / 3.5

Given that there were 17 unvaxxed for every 83 vaxxed (at that time), that means that if there was equal numbers of each group, you would have approx five times more likely to be in ICU with no vaccination.

Does that help?

No. You can't help anti-vaxxers.

They are not reasonable people.

They don't know how to apply critical thinking.

There is no statistic or fact that you can present to them that will ever change their minds.

They are, in the purest sense, complete & utter morons.

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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 6:31pm

the vaccine was "mildly" helpful

for pfizer to make $3000 a second off it, one would say it was more a financial success then a health success.

politicians have gone radio silent on it.

they arent even pushing boosters

every state premier said that "jabs in arms " would end the pandemic.

i understand their silence and i understand the people who got vaccinated doubling down on it.

but eating healthy food, exercising and not being fat are much better and cheaper long term strategies.

they just arent as easy to sell or to make a profit off

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34011 Gender:	Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 6:34pm one wonders how dumb the public must be when they accept this person as the EU's expert on health
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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #12 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 7:11pm

random wrote on Sep 17^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

aquastupid.

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I told you so.

You can't help anti-vaxxers.

They are not reasonable people.

They don't know how to apply critical thinking.

There is no statistic or fact that you can present to them that will ever change their minds.

They are, in the purest/literal sense, complete & utter morons.

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Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized
Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 8:25pm

random wrote on Sep 17^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

I will try to help you out given that you get confused by science.

Here are some updated figures

NSW Health COVID-19 Critical Intelligence Unit: COVID-19 Monitor, 26 May 2022

Rates per million
Hospital rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 679.0 / 143.9
COVID-19 patients in ICU, as at 22 May 4.2
ICU rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 44.7 / 3.5

Given that there were 17 unvaxxed for every 83 vaxxed (at that time), that means that if there was equal numbers of each group, you would have approx five times more likely to be in ICU with no vaccination.

Does that help?

I though the difference would have been more than that. MUCH more.

It should be kept in mind that those that are most at risk are pretty much ALL vaccinated.
Those that are unvaccinated are much more likely to be young, fit and healthy. A very low risk profile.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Reply #14 - Sep 17^th, 2022 at 9:39pm The WHO have pretty much declared this pandemic over, is anyone lining up for more shots now, you are only fully vaxxed when? was that the 2nd 3rd or 5th shot.
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