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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137517 Gender:	Re: Hijab, a symbol of oppression. Reply #30 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people? Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck? I'm curious. Seriously.
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Reply #31 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck?

I'm curious. Seriously.

I don't know, but I am guessing for the same reason you defend Islam and have since you joined the forum.

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Reply #32 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck?

I'm curious. Seriously.

FD nailed it with apologists like little pecca

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I know the answer to this one. Greg is a habitual liar.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

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Reply #33 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 11:02pm

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Ghazale Chelavi took to the streets to protest the killing of #MahsaAmini by hijab police in Iran but she herself got killed by security forces. Her friend told me that she got shot in the head in Amol city. She was 32 Yr old mountaineer full of life. Her family are shocked.

Another woman, Hananeh Kia, 23 Yr old was shot by Iranian security forces while she was protesting over the murder of #MahsaAmini in Nowshar city.
She is one of the dozens of ppl lost their lives during the ongoing protests. The world must take action against our killers

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1573212392926113792?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoo...

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Reply #34 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 8:06am

issuevoter wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck?

I'm curious. Seriously.

I don't know, ...

Do you think it might be because they're evil people themselves?

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for evildoers?

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48267 Gender:	Re: Hijab, a symbol of oppression. Reply #35 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 8:28pm I dunno Baron. That Peccary fella sure does act like a Moslem most of the time in the name of the Media, short of Mohommedism.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18474 Gender:	Re: Hijab, a symbol of oppression. Reply #36 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 9:12pm Jasin wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 8:28pm: I dunno Baron. That Peccary fella sure does act like a Moslem most of the time in the name of the Media, short of Mohommedism. We can add Mothra Smithy and Future left wanker to that list along with Brian Ross.
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Reply #37 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 9:20pm

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Mahsa Amini's Murder Revealed the Truth: Hijab Is a Tool of Oppression

I am grateful that Mahsa Amini's name is making headlines.

Mahsa is the 22 year old Kurdish girl from Iran who was beaten to death by the morality police—a morality police devoid of any morality—for not covering her hair to their satisfaction.

I am grateful that people are paying attention to this young woman who was killed because of a few strands of hair. But I am also incredibly angry, frustrated, and infuriated that our screams have been ignored for so long. I am so sorry that it had to take a young woman losing her life by being brutally beaten until she was brain dead for the world to finally notice our screams.

It's not for lack of trying on our part.

We screamed when Aqsa Parvaz, a sixteen year old girl in Ontario, Canada was strangled to death by her father and brother over hijab.

We screamed when two sisters from Texas, Amina and Sarah Said, were shot and killed by their father as well.

We screamed when Banaz Mahmod was killed by her family in the United Kingdom, chopped up and stuffed into a suitcase and buried in her family's backyard.

We screamed every time women in Pakistan, Algeria, and Egypt were killed over hijab.

But no one heard our screams.

Instead, people in the West continued to regurgitate the Islamist propaganda, insisting to we who know better that that wearing hijab is simply "an empowering choice."What are our choices? Wear it or suffer the consequences? The word "choice" is a lie in this context.

We watched major corporations like Nike and Lululemon endorse this tool of misogyny by putting their insignia on hijabs.

We watched politicians, journalists, and other female leaders choose to subjugate themselves by wearing the hijab and covering their shame when they stood to address a religious extremist man.

You continued to parade the hijab on the cover of your magazines and books as if it was nothing more than benign cultural dress.

You not only ignored our screams, but you actively supported our oppressors. You actively supported extremists who encouraged you to make child-size hijabs in the name of inclusion and diversity.

Endorsing hijab on children is endorsing child abuse and gender segregation. Those are not cultural values; those are toxic misogynist ideals.

As Masih Alinejad, the fearless campaigner for Iranian women, has said, "It is an insult to a nation to tell us that hijab is our culture, that gender segregation and misogyny is our culture."

Iranian women and their supporters are not interested in upholding misogynist traditions that demand we cover our shameful bodies, shameful hair, and even shameful faces. We are interested in the same bodily autonomy and personal freedoms that you enjoy.

We are not aliens from a subspecies. We are human beings too. We are fighting for our lives and the lives of our sisters and our daughters and all the women and girls who will come after us.

We are not even asking you to support us. We are just asking you to stop supporting our oppressors. We are asking you to hear our screams.

https://www.newsweek.com/mahsa-aminis-murder-revealed-truth-hijab-tool-oppressio...

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Reply #38 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 10:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 9:20pm:

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Mahsa Amini's Murder Revealed the Truth: Hijab Is a Tool of Oppression

I am grateful that Mahsa Amini's name is making headlines.

Mahsa is the 22 year old Kurdish girl from Iran who was beaten to death by the morality police—a morality police devoid of any morality—for not covering her hair to their satisfaction.

I am grateful that people are paying attention to this young woman who was killed because of a few strands of hair. But I am also incredibly angry, frustrated, and infuriated that our screams have been ignored for so long. I am so sorry that it had to take a young woman losing her life by being brutally beaten until she was brain dead for the world to finally notice our screams.

It's not for lack of trying on our part.

We screamed when Aqsa Parvaz, a sixteen year old girl in Ontario, Canada was strangled to death by her father and brother over hijab.

We screamed when two sisters from Texas, Amina and Sarah Said, were shot and killed by their father as well.

We screamed when Banaz Mahmod was killed by her family in the United Kingdom, chopped up and stuffed into a suitcase and buried in her family's backyard.

We screamed every time women in Pakistan, Algeria, and Egypt were killed over hijab.

But no one heard our screams.

Instead, people in the West continued to regurgitate the Islamist propaganda, insisting to we who know better that that wearing hijab is simply "an empowering choice."What are our choices? Wear it or suffer the consequences? The word "choice" is a lie in this context.

We watched major corporations like Nike and Lululemon endorse this tool of misogyny by putting their insignia on hijabs.

We watched politicians, journalists, and other female leaders choose to subjugate themselves by wearing the hijab and covering their shame when they stood to address a religious extremist man.

You continued to parade the hijab on the cover of your magazines and books as if it was nothing more than benign cultural dress.

You not only ignored our screams, but you actively supported our oppressors. You actively supported extremists who encouraged you to make child-size hijabs in the name of inclusion and diversity.

Endorsing hijab on children is endorsing child abuse and gender segregation. Those are not cultural values; those are toxic misogynist ideals.

As Masih Alinejad, the fearless campaigner for Iranian women, has said, "It is an insult to a nation to tell us that hijab is our culture, that gender segregation and misogyny is our culture."

Iranian women and their supporters are not interested in upholding misogynist traditions that demand we cover our shameful bodies, shameful hair, and even shameful faces. We are interested in the same bodily autonomy and personal freedoms that you enjoy.

We are not aliens from a subspecies. We are human beings too. We are fighting for our lives and the lives of our sisters and our daughters and all the women and girls who will come after us.

We are not even asking you to support us. We are just asking you to stop supporting our oppressors. We are asking you to hear our screams.

https://www.newsweek.com/mahsa-aminis-murder-revealed-truth-hijab-tool-oppressio...

The above article is by YASMINE MOHAMMED , AUTHOR OF 'UNVEILED: HOW WESTERN LIBERALS EMPOWER RADICAL ISLAM'

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Reply #39 - Sep 24^th, 2022 at 10:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 8:06am:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck?

I'm curious. Seriously.

I don't know, ...

Do you think it might be because they're evil people themselves?

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for evildoers?

Who are the evildoers? The Muslim enforcers of Mohammedan superstitions and cruel subjugation. Who are the apologists for them? You, turdy substances, Bbwian, Plankers, khunt, Mothra et al.

I don't think even Gandalf is as spinelessly and brazenly apologetic for them as you lot.

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Reply #40 - Sep 25^th, 2022 at 7:24am

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 10:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 8:06am:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for these evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for these pricks by passing the buck?

I'm curious. Seriously.

I don't know, ...

Do you think it might be because they're evil people themselves?

Why do the right-wingers on here continue to make excuses for evil people?

Why must they always be apologists for evildoers?

Who are the evildoers?

The individuals you make excuses for day after day.

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Reply #41 - Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:18am

Australia needs to be wary of the insidious infiltration of practicing
Muslim migrants entering the country.    At 28 June this year, there
were 813,392 Muslims living here, or 3.2% of the population. This
compares with 91,023 Jews, and 243,700 Hindus (the fastest growing
religion in Australia).

As Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism both suffer a major loss of
adherents, we need to ensure—immediately—that Islam doesn't become
any sort of de facto political force. Which is why I'm pleased to see
the increase in atheism numbers in Australia, outstripping both the
Catholics and the Protestants for the first time in the last 2021 census.

Islam is a religion of subjugation of women's rights, cultural oppression,
suppression of any opposition—usually with violence, social prejudices,
religious discrimination, and overbearing, unequivocal adherence to
Qur'anic dogma. And it's now acceptable in Australian courts and in our
parliaments to swear or take the oath on the Qur'an.   Seriously?

In a 2011 study by Pew Research Center, of Muslim Americans, only 56%
reported that Muslims who migrated to the US wanted to adopt American
customs and ways of life.

—We don't want to see the same scenario here.    Angry

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Reply #42 - Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:44am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Australia needs to be wary of the insidious infiltration of practicing
Muslim migrants entering the country.    At 28 June this year, there
were 813,392 Muslims living here, or 3.2% of the population. This
compares with 91,023 Jews, and 243,700 Hindus (the fastest growing
religion in Australia).

As Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism both suffer a major loss of
adherents, we need to ensure—immediately—that Islam doesn't become
any sort of de facto political force. Which is why I'm pleased to see
the increase in atheism numbers in Australia, outstripping both the
Catholics and the Protestants for the first time in the last 2021 census.

Islam is a religion of subjugation of women's rights, cultural oppression,
suppression of any opposition—usually with violence, social prejudices,
religious discrimination, and overbearing, unequivocal adherence to
Qur'anic dogma. And it's now acceptable in Australian courts and in our
parliaments to swear or take the oath on the Qur'an.   Seriously?

In a 2011 study by Pew Research Center, of Muslim Americans, only 56%
reported that Muslims who migrated to the US wanted to adopt American
customs and ways of life.

—We don't want to see the same scenario here.    Angry

Correct. However, as we know, Western society has a large percentage of people who have half-baked sentiments based an altruism and tolerance. Their error is in the assumption of cultural equivalence, never acknowledging that multicultural societies exist under the umbrella of the one that is superior at tolerance.

Islam will never become tolerant of other cultures and religions while its followers do nothing to stop the atrocities. They don't even condemn the bloodshed vocally, and why should they while people say “Only the actual murderers are guilty, the others have right to believe in anything they want to believe.” Well, no they don't have that right. They have an obligation to humanity and civilisation, even if it means rejecting Islam and the crazy notion that the Koran is the word of God. No one has the right to turn a blind eye to evil which is what many Muzlums do.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137517 Gender:	Re: Hijab, a symbol of oppression. Reply #43 - Sep 25^th, 2022 at 10:01am AusGeoff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:18am: In a 2011 study by Pew Research Center, of Muslim Americans, only 56% reported that Muslims who migrated to the US wanted to adopt American customs and ways of life. To be honest, if I migrated to the US I wouldn't be too keen on adopting their customs and way of life.
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Reply #44 - Sep 25^th, 2022 at 10:03am

issuevoter wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Australia needs to be wary of the insidious infiltration of practicing
Muslim migrants entering the country.    At 28 June this year, there
were 813,392 Muslims living here, or 3.2% of the population. This
compares with 91,023 Jews, and 243,700 Hindus (the fastest growing
religion in Australia).

As Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism both suffer a major loss of
adherents, we need to ensure—immediately—that Islam doesn't become
any sort of de facto political force. Which is why I'm pleased to see
the increase in atheism numbers in Australia, outstripping both the
Catholics and the Protestants for the first time in the last 2021 census.

Islam is a religion of subjugation of women's rights, cultural oppression,
suppression of any opposition—usually with violence, social prejudices,
religious discrimination, and overbearing, unequivocal adherence to
Qur'anic dogma. And it's now acceptable in Australian courts and in our
parliaments to swear or take the oath on the Qur'an.   Seriously?

In a 2011 study by Pew Research Center, of Muslim Americans, only 56%
reported that Muslims who migrated to the US wanted to adopt American
customs and ways of life.

—We don't want to see the same scenario here.    Angry

Correct. However, as we know, Western society has a large percentage of people who have half-baked sentiments based an altruism and tolerance. Their error is in the assumption of cultural equivalence, never acknowledging that multicultural societies exist under the umbrella of the one that is superior at tolerance.

Islam will never become tolerant of other cultures and religions while its followers do nothing to stop the atrocities. They don't even condemn the bloodshed vocally, and why should they while people say “Only the actual murderers are guilty, the others have right to believe in anything they want to believe.” Well, no they don't have that right. They have an obligation to humanity and civilisation, even if it means rejecting Islam and the crazy notion that the Koran is the word of God. No one has the right to turn a blind eye to evil which is what many Muzlums do.

Wow!

So much irony.

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