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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #60 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:02pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:50pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

So how did these people get Australian citizenship?

They tend to be granted Australian citizenship as part of their birthright. Silly perhaps but when you are born in Australia you are automatically an Australian citizen. Funny that, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why be so facetious? Are you trying to say that they were born in Australia? A yes or no will do.

What do you think, Bias? They are as Australian as you are... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #61 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

I see another member of the mob has joined. Do you have your flaming torches, you pitchforks, your scythes and your nooses ready, Bobby? Do you always react like this when confronted by someone who has done something wrong? You seem to be one who judges a person before they have done anything specifically wrong? I suppose you supported the Nazis in their holocaust against the Jews? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

An educated person like you should know
that you have employed a logical fallacy called Argumentum Ad Hitlerum.

you are forgiven
namaste

https://wiki.c2.com/?ArgumentumAdHitlerum

The notoriously fallacious debate tactic 'Argumentum Ad Hitlerum' is a humorous corruption of the Latin phrase, Argumentum Ad Hominem, and is a form of guilt by association, where the object of abuse is compared to Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party, or any number of peripheral parties, such as Neo-Nazis. Besides being a cheap, juvenile means of debate, it falls apart as quickly as any other form of guilt by association in rhetoric: Hitler was an ardent vegetarian; are all vegetarians therefore tantamount to Hitler?

This fallacy is also known as 'Reductio Ad Nazium',

from the 'Reductio Ad Absurdum' that should be well known to anyone familiar with the rigorous, axiomatic Greek method of mathematical proofs.

Unable to face reality, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Mr multiple degrees Brian,

apologise for your Reductio Ad Nazium.

"a cheap, juvenile means of debate"

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #62 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:50pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

So how did these people get Australian citizenship?

They tend to be granted Australian citizenship as part of their birthright. Silly perhaps but when you are born in Australia you are automatically an Australian citizen. Funny that, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why be so facetious? Are you trying to say that they were born in Australia? A yes or no will do.

What do you think, Bias? They are as Australian as you are... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Sure. If being Australian is wishing the demise and annihilation of it's democratic, secular way of life, it's tolerance and generally peaceful way of life and the installation of an Islamic theocracy is what you mean by Australian.

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #63 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:50pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

So how did these people get Australian citizenship?

They tend to be granted Australian citizenship as part of their birthright. Silly perhaps but when you are born in Australia you are automatically an Australian citizen. Funny that, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why be so facetious? Are you trying to say that they were born in Australia? A yes or no will do.

What do you think, Bias? They are as Australian as you are... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Sure. If being Australian is wishing the demise and annihilation of it's democratic, secular way of life, it's tolerance and generally peaceful way of life and the installation of an Islamic theocracy is what you mean by Australian.

Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to seek a similar situation in their hatred of Muslims, Blacks, Immigrants, almost anybody that doesn't fit their narrow ideas of what constitutes an "Australian", Setanta. Should they lose their citizenship as a consequence? Afterall it is fair for one, it is fair for all, now isn't it? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #64 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:44pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 5:51am:

Brian do you think it is a good idea for the Labor government to bring people into the country in full knowledge that they pose a serious risk of conducting a mass casualty terrorist attack?

serious threat Cheesy

to much cool aid for you

you'd rather rape them with a cactus?

and whats your solution for the kids?

Muslim brides or Bacha Bazi? That is the culture their parents signed up for and a fine culture it is, eh.

you don't 'sign up' for your culture.

Really? So Australian women, converted to Islam, went to join ISIS and they didn't didn't sign up the the Muslim culture and it's ideals? Really? You do sign up for your culture, it can propagate, subsume other cultures, out compete them. That you accept the one handed to you does not mean Jack. If in fact you don't accept what was handed to you, you chose or "signed up" to something else.

ISIS isn't 'muslim culture'.

and not accepting what is handed to you is not signing up to something else, no matter how much you might wish it so

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #65 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

When someone joins a foreign enemy army, they normally just get shot Brian.

Are you saying we should put them on trial when they get back?

If they have committed a crime and it can be proven in a court of law, they get what they deserve. However, we are discussing women and children here and we all know the attitude of Islamic State towards such people, now, don't we? You and the rest of the mob have delighted in numerous posts, Freediver, telling us exactly that. So why now they are in your opinion to be held accountable for what their menfolk did? Is it because of your mob mentality, Islamophobia? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Get your flaming torches, nooses, hayforks, scythes ready, silly man. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The really young ones will be separated from the mothers, the jihadi bints.
They will be the next Stolen Generation down the track - children of the enemies of Australia saved from their parents will come back and put their hands out for compo for being removed from a toxic environment. Not without precedent in the Australian legal context.

The 16-18 year old cohort will energise all the little jihadis and will be a leavening agent for keepin' the Ummah dream alive in suburban Greenacre and Lakemba.

By your idiotic reckoning, anyone with Australian citizenship who joined Hitler should have been repatriated and left alone until it was proven, in the fog of war, that they did anything like what they they joined up for.

Bbwian, you are a despicable, morally bankrupt man and the only mitigating circumstance is that you are even more stupid and idiotic than you are morally corrupt.

You appear to have no moral compass at all, Soren. Did you lose it in your European travels? For someone who admonishes so many other posters for lacking any morality, you are the worst. You attack people because of their ethnicity, their "race", their religion and lastly because of their circumstances. You attack other posters simply for having a differing opinion to yours. When you grow up and start to act like an adult it could be possible to have a conversation with you but until then, you will remain a fool. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Thank you Mr Bbwian.

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #66 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:09pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 5:51am:

Brian do you think it is a good idea for the Labor government to bring people into the country in full knowledge that they pose a serious risk of conducting a mass casualty terrorist attack?

serious threat Cheesy

to much cool aid for you

Are you suggesting there is no serious threat?

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"These are people that would, in our judgement — not all of them but some of them — have the potential and capacity to come back here and cause a mass casualty event," Mr Dutton told 2GB in October 2019.

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The federal government has not gone into detail about its plans but a spokesman for Home Affairs Minister Clare O'Neil said any decision is informed by national security advice.

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"The women have all offered their full cooperation with law enforcement authorities should they be repatriated here in Australia," he told the ABC.

"They have also offered themselves to be subject to terrorism control orders by consent, which is unprecedented in Australia's history that these women would say we are ok for our every move to be monitored.

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The federal government has said Australian women and children expected to be repatriated from Syria will be closely monitored by national security agencies, as the Coalition argued the rescue mission is too dangerous.

Labor frontbencher Tanya Plibersek said the government was following the advice of security agencies.

"But I think for everybody involved, there will be an ongoing expectation that our security and intelligence agencies will stay in contact with them and monitor them."

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #67 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:50pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

So how did these people get Australian citizenship?

They tend to be granted Australian citizenship as part of their birthright. Silly perhaps but when you are born in Australia you are automatically an Australian citizen. Funny that, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why be so facetious? Are you trying to say that they were born in Australia? A yes or no will do.

What do you think, Bias? They are as Australian as you are... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Sure. If being Australian is wishing the demise and annihilation of it's democratic, secular way of life, it's tolerance and generally peaceful way of life and the installation of an Islamic theocracy is what you mean by Australian.

Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to seek a similar situation in their hatred of Muslims, Blacks, Immigrants, almost anybody that doesn't fit their narrow ideas of what constitutes an "Australian", Setanta. Should they lose their citizenship as a consequence? Afterall it is fair for one, it is fair for all, now isn't it? Roll Eyes

Are they leaving Australia to join ISIS or similar groups? If they are, well don't let them back in.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49397 At my desk.	Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued Reply #68 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:12pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm: Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to Your delusional fantasies are evidence of nothing more than your delusional fantasies Brian.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106608 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued Reply #69 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:13pm freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm: Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to Your delusional fantasies are evidence of nothing more than your delusional fantasies Brian. Careful - he'll call you a Nazi.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16624 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued Reply #70 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:18pm freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm: Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to Your delusional fantasies are evidence of nothing more than your delusional fantasies Brian. I have to wonder about the "nominally" and why it was used.
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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #72 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:42pm

Frank wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

When someone joins a foreign enemy army, they normally just get shot Brian.

Are you saying we should put them on trial when they get back?

If they have committed a crime and it can be proven in a court of law, they get what they deserve. However, we are discussing women and children here and we all know the attitude of Islamic State towards such people, now, don't we? You and the rest of the mob have delighted in numerous posts, Freediver, telling us exactly that. So why now they are in your opinion to be held accountable for what their menfolk did? Is it because of your mob mentality, Islamophobia? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Get your flaming torches, nooses, hayforks, scythes ready, silly man. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The really young ones will be separated from the mothers, the jihadi bints.
They will be the next Stolen Generation down the track - children of the enemies of Australia saved from their parents will come back and put their hands out for compo for being removed from a toxic environment. Not without precedent in the Australian legal context.

The 16-18 year old cohort will energise all the little jihadis and will be a leavening agent for keepin' the Ummah dream alive in suburban Greenacre and Lakemba.

By your idiotic reckoning, anyone with Australian citizenship who joined Hitler should have been repatriated and left alone until it was proven, in the fog of war, that they did anything like what they they joined up for.

Bbwian, you are a despicable, morally bankrupt man and the only mitigating circumstance is that you are even more stupid and idiotic than you are morally corrupt.

You appear to have no moral compass at all, Soren. Did you lose it in your European travels? For someone who admonishes so many other posters for lacking any morality, you are the worst. You attack people because of their ethnicity, their "race", their religion and lastly because of their circumstances. You attack other posters simply for having a differing opinion to yours. When you grow up and start to act like an adult it could be possible to have a conversation with you but until then, you will remain a fool. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Thank you Mr Bbwian.

Anytime, Soren. When are you going to grow up, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #73 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:45pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:50pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

So how did these people get Australian citizenship?

They tend to be granted Australian citizenship as part of their birthright. Silly perhaps but when you are born in Australia you are automatically an Australian citizen. Funny that, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why be so facetious? Are you trying to say that they were born in Australia? A yes or no will do.

What do you think, Bias? They are as Australian as you are... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Sure. If being Australian is wishing the demise and annihilation of it's democratic, secular way of life, it's tolerance and generally peaceful way of life and the installation of an Islamic theocracy is what you mean by Australian.

Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to seek a similar situation in their hatred of Muslims, Blacks, Immigrants, almost anybody that doesn't fit their narrow ideas of what constitutes an "Australian", Setanta. Should they lose their citizenship as a consequence? Afterall it is fair for one, it is fair for all, now isn't it? Roll Eyes

Are they leaving Australia to join ISIS or similar groups? If they are, well don't let them back in.

Some do, some don't. Their views remain traitorous, according to, no matter where they located but you remain silent on their views. Interesting, hey? Is because the mob all agree with their views? Roll Eyes

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Re: Australians in Syrian camps to be rescued
Reply #74 - Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:46pm

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 8:41pm:

Many, nominally, Christian Australians appear to

Your delusional fantasies are evidence of nothing more than your delusional fantasies Brian.

I am a great deal more realistic than many of the views expressed here by the mob. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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