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Question: Will the referendum be voted in?
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The Aboriginal Voice referendum (Read 91422 times)
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Reply #1035 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am
 
Larry, at what age do you think children are locked up in penal institutions in Australia?
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Reply #1036 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:48am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am:
Larry, at what age do you think children are locked up in penal institutions in Australia?



Well - a bunch of 13-15 yos ramming police cars and attempting murder in Townsville should be held and tried as adults... they know what they are doing...

What age are children locked up in PENAL institutions in Australia.

"The meaning of PENAL INSTITUTION is a building where people are kept as punishment

So how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?
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Reply #1037 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:54am
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1038 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:55am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:30am:
For the NotSoGreat multi ...

Wanna guess WHY this is the case?

Refer to my previous attachment for a clue 😐


Ok NotSoGreat Multi ...

Have a read of this on Aboriginal PERPETRATORS! The stats don’t lie!

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=933f2375eb92da963...
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Reply #1039 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am:
Larry, at what age do you think children are locked up in penal institutions in Australia?



Well - a bunch of 13-15 yos ramming police cars and attempting murder in Townsville should be held and tried as adults... they know what they are doing...

What age are children locked up in PENAL institutions in Australia.

"The meaning of PENAL INSTITUTION is a building where people are kept as punishment

So how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?



Never ceases to amaze me with you ... that someone so unbelievably clueless argues with such certainty.
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1040 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:54am:



By the same yardsticks neither does anyone else.

We DEMAND a Voice NOW!  One Man - One VOICE!!  Every Individual should have his/her own Voice to Parliament!!!

NOOOOOO APARTHEID!!
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Reply #1041 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:57am
 
Anyone at all know from what age we lock up children?
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Reply #1042 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:59am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am:
Larry, at what age do you think children are locked up in penal institutions in Australia?



Well - a bunch of 13-15 yos ramming police cars and attempting murder in Townsville should be held and tried as adults... they know what they are doing...

What age are children locked up in PENAL institutions in Australia.

"The meaning of PENAL INSTITUTION is a building where people are kept as punishment

So how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?



Never ceases to amaze me with you ... that someone so unbelievably clueless argues with such certainty.


Argues?  I merely ask the questions..... what are your answers..... never ceases to amaze me that someone with so much squid's ink to throw at a discussion can even claim to be participating....

SO - how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?

What age are children locked up in PENAL institutions in Australia?


You know everything - give it an answer.....................   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin ..... best get out the popcorn and beer, Igor..... this'll be a long time coming ......
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1043 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:00pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:54am:


No they don’t have A VOICE...they have MANY VOICES.
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Reply #1044 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:00pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:59am:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am:
Larry, at what age do you think children are locked up in penal institutions in Australia?



Well - a bunch of 13-15 yos ramming police cars and attempting murder in Townsville should be held and tried as adults... they know what they are doing...

What age are children locked up in PENAL institutions in Australia.

"The meaning of PENAL INSTITUTION is a building where people are kept as punishment

So how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?



Never ceases to amaze me with you ... that someone so unbelievably clueless argues with such certainty.


Argues?  I merely ask the questions..... what are your answers..... never ceases to amaze me that someone with so much squid's ink to throw at a discussion can even claim to be participating....

SO - how many are held as punishment and how many are held in 'juvie' to get their minds right - you know - good food, classes, eddication and so forth?

You know everything - give it an answer.....................   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin ..... best get out the popcorn and beer, Igor..... this'll be a long time coming ......



Try tear gas, spit hoods and stripping.

Just while we're reeducating you.

From what age?
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1045 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:02pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:34am:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:33am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:30am:
For the NotSoGreat multi ...

Wanna guess WHY this is the case?

Refer to my previous attachment for a clue 😐



Indeed. Institutionalised racism.


Prove it ................................


Mad Methra (who is NOT OK today) is far too busy looking up words in her/his/its dictionary to prove anything 😂🤣😆
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Reply #1046 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:05pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:57am:
Anyone at all know from what age we lock up children?


How old were you when they locked you up Methra? Was it 11? 12? 13? I forgot. 😳😞🥺
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Reply #1047 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:14pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:29am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:27am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:24am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 11:11pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:03pm:
Wrong as usual - I said that raising wage rates in areas that have a largely female workforce will merely add to the already existing gap against men,


and you are already wrong: men take home more pay, both weekly and yearly, than women.

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and such lower wage rates are not a 'gender gap' - they are a sector gap as exists everywhere else..... do try to keep up with reality.


Wrong again....low paid sectors like child care and age care ARE gendered (femininized) sectors.

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You DO understand the vast difference between HOURLY rates of pay and pay for a week's work, don't you? 
 

Yes; the problem is you draw the wrong conclusions, as you are about to show... Note: women on average work a shorter week than men.


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Women are paid, on average, MORE per hour actually worked than men,


Ok, and....

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and that does not include casual rates... and men work loonger hours and thus bring home MORE pay per week.  How many times does that need to be explained to you in simple English?


Exactly. So men make more money than women over a lifetime, on average.

What was it you are trying to prove?

Apparently you think women CHOOSE to work less PAID hours per week than men. Clearly wrong on your part: woman are FORCED to work less PAID hours per week because of their (gendered) family caring/child-bearing responsibilities; I accept your concession.

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Well - now - given that the generally accepted figure of women killing of all kinds is sixteen times more likely in the 3% Aboriginal community - and that around 35-40% of those are by other women ..... that doesn't leave many for the other 97% does it?


Waffle: 50 women per year in Oz are killed by their partners.  cf c.14  black women per year.   

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You can stop lying now and stop trying bald statements of denial..... figures are not your forte, are they?


Not lying, just reporting stats available on google; even your guardian article reported the homicide RATE as 8 times higher, let's say the rate is 16 times higher; that doesn't mean 16 times as many black women were killed by partners as white women were killed by partners in a given year.   

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Murder and manslaughters around one a week... sixteen times more likely to occur in the Abos.... now tell the truth.... at least HALF of the women killings annually are in the Aboriginal communities.  That's a pretty awesome record to try to catch up with - even for the other 97%....


https://www.ourwatch.org.au/quick-facts/

Key statistics on violence against women in Australia

On average, one woman a week is murdered by her current or former partner.

1 in 3 women (30.5%) has experienced physical violence since the age of 15.

1 in 5 women (18%) has experienced sexual violence since the age of 15.

1 in 3 women (31.1%) has experienced physical and/or sexual violence perpetrated by a man they know.


1 in 4 women (23%) has experienced physical or sexual violence by a current or former intimate partner since age 15.

1 in 4 women (23%) has experienced emotional abuse by a current or former partner since the age of 15.

1 in 2 women (53%) has experienced sexual harassment in their lifetime.

Women are nearly three times more likely than men to experience violence from an intimate partner.

Almost 10 women a day are hospitalised for assault injuries perpetrated by a spouse or domestic partner.


I'll stop there; the question is: how many of them are black women? Half?

Regardless, the picture is disturbing and in no way  flattering for the non-black community. 

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Seriously - you should give up - you, like the unlamented Lefty, have yet to take a trick.


Refuted above, I just demonstrated your errors.


You’ve been CLEARLY hanging around mentally deranged Methra’s pwned barge arse lately.

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-vi...







And did you know that around 50% of the perpetrators of violence towards Aboriginal women aren't Aboriginal themselves?


Did you know that 100% of that comment is absolute BS? 

Methra you keep imagining posts, words and now stats. Again the question must be asked:

Methra R U OK?
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Reply #1048 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:18pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:14pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:29am:




And did you know that around 50% of the perpetrators of violence towards Aboriginal women aren't Aboriginal themselves?


Did you know that 100% of that comment is absolute BS? 

Methra you keep imagining posts, words and now stats. Again the question must be asked:

Methra R U OK?
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Violence against Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women is perpetrated
by Indigenous and non-Indigenous men
Public debate and media reporting frequently imply that this violence is always perpetrated by
Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander men, when this is not the case. Violence against Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander women is perpetrated by men from many cultural backgrounds. Anecdotal
evidence suggests that non-Indigenous men make up a significant proportion of perpetrators. For
intimate partner violence, this reflects data showing the majority of partnered Indigenous women
have non-Indigenous partners, especially in capital cities. Perpetration patterns vary geographically,
with this data suggesting violence against women in remote areas more likely to be perpetrated by
Indigenous men, and violence in urban areas more likely to be perpetrated by non-Indigenous men.


https://media-cdn.ourwatch.org.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/20231759/Ch...
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Reply #1049 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 12:18pm
 
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Methhead is busy atm. Reading this post and link which I so graciously provided 👇

And trying hard to dispute it with the same site her shared id NotSoGreat used.

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Have a read of this on Aboriginal PERPETRATORS! The stats don’t lie!

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=933f2375eb92da963...

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