thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:


More like retirement income....

Nothing in life is free... those lobsters cost me a good yabbying Boong... though I suppose he's lucky he didn't come across Bruce the Great White... someone had a drone on Bruce and he passed right under three freedivers.... you ever seen three white boys walk on the water?

Jeez - I had my shark encounter fifty odd years ago while board surfing... I walked that water.... trust me... you've never seen a board find the sand so fast... nine foot three longboard - one of those short things and my legs would have been hanging down like ripe fruit..

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:



You're just a waffling clown full of shyte.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:


It did, it reduced alcoholism and crime.

Quote:


It did do that, but the funding - for the nonmarket jobs - was withdrawn, so the learnt skills were abandoned; you can't eat learnt skills which aren't receiving a wage.

Quote:


Wrong: the participants liked being employed, that's why alcoholism and crime fell.

Quote:


Wrong again, the CDEP was intended - and did -  create jobs which would give purpose to the workers engaged, and benefit to the community, manifested in the  work done.

Quote:


Don't worry about treasury: Oz just committed to forking out half a $trillion over the next 3 decades...to create jobs in SA.....no problems with the treasury (though I agree with Keating who has some harsh words to say about the subs...) 

Quote:


Poor advertising then, or rather - dense consumers, likely both.

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:


Ohhh look everyone!!! More manic unsubstantiated and unqualified opinions by an unemployed multi nutter who is scared to offer a link on anything he/she/it posts as alleged fact.

Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people. In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16^th, 2023 at 9:35am:


I have supplied many links re the CDEP scheme previously. Do try to keep up. 

Quote:



No, I said the  holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.   

Quote:


Correct, the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries. 

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor. 

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor).   

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16^th, 2023 at 11:27am:


What makes you think I only report Anti Semitism to Freediver?

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16^th, 2023 at 11:37am:


What makes you think I care about how many other supporters of Israeli oppression of Palestinians you seek support from?

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16^th, 2023 at 11:39am:


Did you forget to read my differentiation  of 'self-esteem' versus 'demoralization':  namely.

....the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries.

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor.

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor). 

To lengthy for you to consider?