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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1140 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:42am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:40am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:37am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:27am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:40am:
Hey Freediver could you check this out esp the absurd/bizarre comments by NotSoGreat re Jews and Nazis


One supporter of Israeli oppression of Palestinians seeking the support of another supporter of Israeli oppression.  Sad. 

The entire UN (except for the US and a few other US sycophants - though Biden still wants to make out he supports a 2-state solution...) supports UN resolutions 181 and 242.



What makes you think I only report Anti Semitism to Freediver?


What make you think I care about how many other supporters of Israeli oppression of Palestinians you seek support from.


Ahhh so that’s what you think of online regulators and Australian laws. Thank you for confirming your position.


No worries, happy to assist anytime...
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1141 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:59am
 
Anti Semitism

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Quote by me:
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Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people.


The response to my post by the Anti Semitic NotSoGreat:

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No, I said the holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.


Quote by me:
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In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞

The response to my post by the Anti Semitic NotsoGreat:

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Correct,
the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2, remained as strong as ever.


This next quote is where the Anti Semite NotsoGreat essentially rescripted history and ethically cleansed the existence of the Jewish people out of it.

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....self esteem maintained by the survivors of a 4 year holocaust, cf. total demoralization of loss of culture over 2 centuries of cultural displacement and economic destruction.


In essence he’s saying (and he has in fact repeated this Anti Semitic lie) that the Jewish people haven’t suffered like the Aborigines who suffered centuries of cultural displacement and economic destruction. And he takes that non factual invented lie which both ancient and modern history completely reject... to justify his next conclusion : The Jewish people are not and cannot be demoralised.

Ok BRB....I’m off to send a few emails. Cheers everyone.


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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1142 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 12:00pm
 
Anti Semitism

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:42am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:40am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:37am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:27am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:40am:
Hey Freediver could you check this out esp the absurd/bizarre comments by NotSoGreat re Jews and Nazis


One supporter of Israeli oppression of Palestinians seeking the support of another supporter of Israeli oppression.  Sad. 

The entire UN (except for the US and a few other US sycophants - though Biden still wants to make out he supports a 2-state solution...) supports UN resolutions 181 and 242.



What makes you think I only report Anti Semitism to Freediver?


What make you think I care about how many other supporters of Israeli oppression of Palestinians you seek support from.


Ahhh so that’s what you think of online regulators and Australian laws. Thank you for confirming your position.


No worries, happy to assist anytime...

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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1143 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 3:52pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Larry, I am unsure why you suggest I am Greatdivide or Greggy?  How are your questions of Freediver going?  Ready to admit that I only use the one userID?  You really do appear to be suffering from a mental illness.  It's called Paranoia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 


Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Unlike yourself,Larry, I don't read every post by everybody continually.  I am simply not as paranoid as yourself and I don't assume everybody is impersonating everybody else.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody else is.

Now are you prepared yet to come good on your bet and admit your error and apologise?  Has Freediver answered your email?  Am I using more than one IP number?  YES/NO?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1144 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 3:52pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Larry, I am unsure why you suggest I am Greatdivide or Greggy?  How are your questions of Freediver going?  Ready to admit that I only use the one userID?  You really do appear to be suffering from a mental illness.  It's called Paranoia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 


Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Unlike yourself,Larry, I don't read every post by everybody continually.  I am simply not as paranoid as yourself and I don't assume everybody is impersonating everybody else.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody else is.

Now are you prepared yet to come good on your bet and admit your error and apologise?  Has Freediver answered your email?  Am I using more than one IP number?  YES/NO?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Bwian....who’s Larry?

2. Bwian.....read my post again then read your response. You may realise that your answer had SFA to do with my post.

This one 👇 (which essentially stated that you’ve been busted a number of times stuffing up your screens).

Quote:
Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Consequently you will NOT be getting an apology from me. You will however get what you have ardently earned : my scathing disregard and disrespect for you.



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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1145 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 5:19pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 3:52pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Larry, I am unsure why you suggest I am Greatdivide or Greggy?  How are your questions of Freediver going?  Ready to admit that I only use the one userID?  You really do appear to be suffering from a mental illness.  It's called Paranoia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 


Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Unlike yourself,Larry, I don't read every post by everybody continually.  I am simply not as paranoid as yourself and I don't assume everybody is impersonating everybody else.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody else is.

Now are you prepared yet to come good on your bet and admit your error and apologise?  Has Freediver answered your email?  Am I using more than one IP number?  YES/NO?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Bwian....who’s Larry?

2. Bwian.....read my post again then read your response. You may realise that your answer had SFA to do with my post.

This one 👇 (which essentially stated that you’ve been busted a number of times stuffing up your screens).

Quote:
Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Consequently you will NOT be getting an apology from me. You will however get what you have ardently earned : my scathing disregard and disrespect for you.


You are Larry, Larry.  I really didn't expect an apology from you because I realise that you are so childish that you are incapable of apologising.  Keep on being paranoid if that is what you want to be.  However, until you apologise I will continue to treat you with the contempt you deserve.  Such a child.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1146 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 5:23pm
 
When China tensions - you can entrust our intrepid Brian to be right there to catch the latest output.
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Reply #1147 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 5:39pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 12:00pm:
Anti Semitism



the accusation made against me because I wrote, according to Lisa: What make you think I care about how many other supporters of Israeli oppression of Palestinians you seek support from.

I note Lisa's highlight.

Er...did you forget to highlight the rest of the sentence ie,
as in "Israeli oppression of Palestinians"?

You are a classic study in the effects of dumb, blindly self-interested RW ideology on the capacity for reasoned argument.



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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1148 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 6:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:18am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 8:52pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
If the CDEP Scheme had anything worthy to offer,


It did, it reduced alcoholism and crime.

Quote:
it would have inserted knowledge and ongoing motivation in some to continue the good work...


It did do that, but the funding - for the nonmarket jobs - was withdrawn, so the learnt skills were abandoned; you can't eat learnt skills which aren't receiving a wage.

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it did not..... which proves it was not producing the 'anticipated' results....


Wrong: the participants liked being employed, that's why alcoholism and crime fell.

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not that it was ever really intended to be anything more than a free ride ...


Wrong again, the CDEP was intended - and did -  create jobs which would give purpose to the workers engaged, and benefit to the community, manifested in the  work done.

Quote:
That's all your 'HEAJ' Scheme (Hand 'Em A Job) will do - give them some ready to spend like sailors for a while until the gates shut on the treasury, and then it'll be back to business as usual...


Don't worry about treasury: Oz just committed to forking out half a $trillion over the next 3 decades...to create jobs in SA.....no problems with the treasury (though I agree with Keating who has some harsh words to say about the subs...) 

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"Might go well as advertising, boss - but could be mistaken for a free ride..... you know."


Poor advertising then, or rather - dense consumers, likely both.


Ohhh look everyone!!! More manic unsubstantiated and unqualified opinions by an unemployed multi nutter who is scared to offer a link on anything he/she/it posts as alleged fact.


I have supplied many links re the CDEP scheme previously. Do try to keep up. 

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Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people.



No, I said the  holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.   

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In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞


Correct, the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries. 

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor. 

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor).   





This is the same guy who tries to pass off the CCP starving 50 million Chinese to death in an effort to distribute food evenly as a non event. And all the other progroms from the CCP and soviet dictatorships. The holocaust is just a drop in the bucket for them.
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1149 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 6:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 6:18pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:18am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 8:52pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
If the CDEP Scheme had anything worthy to offer,


It did, it reduced alcoholism and crime.

Quote:
it would have inserted knowledge and ongoing motivation in some to continue the good work...


It did do that, but the funding - for the nonmarket jobs - was withdrawn, so the learnt skills were abandoned; you can't eat learnt skills which aren't receiving a wage.

Quote:
it did not..... which proves it was not producing the 'anticipated' results....


Wrong: the participants liked being employed, that's why alcoholism and crime fell.

Quote:
not that it was ever really intended to be anything more than a free ride ...


Wrong again, the CDEP was intended - and did -  create jobs which would give purpose to the workers engaged, and benefit to the community, manifested in the  work done.

Quote:
That's all your 'HEAJ' Scheme (Hand 'Em A Job) will do - give them some ready to spend like sailors for a while until the gates shut on the treasury, and then it'll be back to business as usual...


Don't worry about treasury: Oz just committed to forking out half a $trillion over the next 3 decades...to create jobs in SA.....no problems with the treasury (though I agree with Keating who has some harsh words to say about the subs...) 

Quote:
"Might go well as advertising, boss - but could be mistaken for a free ride..... you know."


Poor advertising then, or rather - dense consumers, likely both.


Ohhh look everyone!!! More manic unsubstantiated and unqualified opinions by an unemployed multi nutter who is scared to offer a link on anything he/she/it posts as alleged fact.


I have supplied many links re the CDEP scheme previously. Do try to keep up. 

Quote:
Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people.



No, I said the  holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.   

Quote:
In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞


Correct, the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries. 

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor. 

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor).   





This is the same guy who tries to pass off the CCP starving 50 million Chinese to death in an effort to distribute food evenly as a non event.
 

Liar.  (....your comment doesn't deserve any more consideration than this).

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And all the other progroms from the CCP and soviet dictatorships. The holocaust is just a drop in the bucket for them.


Liar.
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #1150 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 7:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 6:18pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:18am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 8:52pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
If the CDEP Scheme had anything worthy to offer,


It did, it reduced alcoholism and crime.

Quote:
it would have inserted knowledge and ongoing motivation in some to continue the good work...


It did do that, but the funding - for the nonmarket jobs - was withdrawn, so the learnt skills were abandoned; you can't eat learnt skills which aren't receiving a wage.

Quote:
it did not..... which proves it was not producing the 'anticipated' results....


Wrong: the participants liked being employed, that's why alcoholism and crime fell.

Quote:
not that it was ever really intended to be anything more than a free ride ...


Wrong again, the CDEP was intended - and did -  create jobs which would give purpose to the workers engaged, and benefit to the community, manifested in the  work done.

Quote:
That's all your 'HEAJ' Scheme (Hand 'Em A Job) will do - give them some ready to spend like sailors for a while until the gates shut on the treasury, and then it'll be back to business as usual...


Don't worry about treasury: Oz just committed to forking out half a $trillion over the next 3 decades...to create jobs in SA.....no problems with the treasury (though I agree with Keating who has some harsh words to say about the subs...) 

Quote:
"Might go well as advertising, boss - but could be mistaken for a free ride..... you know."


Poor advertising then, or rather - dense consumers, likely both.


Ohhh look everyone!!! More manic unsubstantiated and unqualified opinions by an unemployed multi nutter who is scared to offer a link on anything he/she/it posts as alleged fact.


I have supplied many links re the CDEP scheme previously. Do try to keep up. 

Quote:
Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people.



No, I said the  holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.   

Quote:
In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞


Correct, the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries. 

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor. 

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor).   





This is the same guy who tries to pass off the CCP starving 50 million Chinese to death in an effort to distribute food evenly as a non event. And all the other progroms from the CCP and soviet dictatorships. The holocaust is just a drop in the bucket for them.


The individual sitting inside the NotSoGreat id has now been reported to a number of govt agencies along with screenshots of and links to his “disturbing material”.


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Reply #1151 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 7:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 3:52pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Larry, I am unsure why you suggest I am Greatdivide or Greggy?  How are your questions of Freediver going?  Ready to admit that I only use the one userID?  You really do appear to be suffering from a mental illness.  It's called Paranoia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 


Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Unlike yourself,Larry, I don't read every post by everybody continually.  I am simply not as paranoid as yourself and I don't assume everybody is impersonating everybody else.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody else is.

Now are you prepared yet to come good on your bet and admit your error and apologise?  Has Freediver answered your email?  Am I using more than one IP number?  YES/NO?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Bwian....who’s Larry?

2. Bwian.....read my post again then read your response. You may realise that your answer had SFA to do with my post.

This one 👇 (which essentially stated that you’ve been busted a number of times stuffing up your screens).

Quote:
Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Consequently you will NOT be getting an apology from me. You will however get what you have ardently earned : my scathing disregard and disrespect for you.


You are Larry, Larry.


No I am Lisa, Bwian. Who’s Larry?
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Reply #1152 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:13pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 7:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 3:52pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Larry, I am unsure why you suggest I am Greatdivide or Greggy?  How are your questions of Freediver going?  Ready to admit that I only use the one userID?  You really do appear to be suffering from a mental illness.  It's called Paranoia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 


Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Unlike yourself,Larry, I don't read every post by everybody continually.  I am simply not as paranoid as yourself and I don't assume everybody is impersonating everybody else.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody else is.

Now are you prepared yet to come good on your bet and admit your error and apologise?  Has Freediver answered your email?  Am I using more than one IP number?  YES/NO?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Bwian....who’s Larry?

2. Bwian.....read my post again then read your response. You may realise that your answer had SFA to do with my post.

This one 👇 (which essentially stated that you’ve been busted a number of times stuffing up your screens).

Quote:
Speaking of mental illness .... Bwian have you (conveniently) forgotten how the ids you’ve been implicated in have been caught out confusing their multi screens previously and have answered each other (some even before a question had even been asked).


Consequently you will NOT be getting an apology from me. You will however get what you have ardently earned : my scathing disregard and disrespect for you.


You are Larry, Larry.


No I am Lisa, Bwian. Who’s Larry?


...

You are Larry, Larry.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1153 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:49pm
 
Is a shot coon.... nobody in their right mind is going to vote YES.  A few ratbags stoned out on wine and hashish maybe.. a few dopes fed bullshit at unis these days.... a few half-wits brought in to make up the population and coming from countries where a constitution is a walk in the park... imagine the likes of Langton (Professor!!) having a vote! 

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You are NOT getting power in this land that nobody else has and you WILL abide by the rules of OUR democracy... or pack your bags for Aborassic Park... watch that swinging door on your way to the train for re-settlement.....
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Reply #1154 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:54pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 7:18pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 6:18pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:18am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 8:52pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
If the CDEP Scheme had anything worthy to offer,


It did, it reduced alcoholism and crime.

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it would have inserted knowledge and ongoing motivation in some to continue the good work...


It did do that, but the funding - for the nonmarket jobs - was withdrawn, so the learnt skills were abandoned; you can't eat learnt skills which aren't receiving a wage.

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it did not..... which proves it was not producing the 'anticipated' results....


Wrong: the participants liked being employed, that's why alcoholism and crime fell.

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not that it was ever really intended to be anything more than a free ride ...


Wrong again, the CDEP was intended - and did -  create jobs which would give purpose to the workers engaged, and benefit to the community, manifested in the  work done.

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That's all your 'HEAJ' Scheme (Hand 'Em A Job) will do - give them some ready to spend like sailors for a while until the gates shut on the treasury, and then it'll be back to business as usual...


Don't worry about treasury: Oz just committed to forking out half a $trillion over the next 3 decades...to create jobs in SA.....no problems with the treasury (though I agree with Keating who has some harsh words to say about the subs...) 

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"Might go well as advertising, boss - but could be mistaken for a free ride..... you know."


Poor advertising then, or rather - dense consumers, likely both.


Ohhh look everyone!!! More manic unsubstantiated and unqualified opinions by an unemployed multi nutter who is scared to offer a link on anything he/she/it posts as alleged fact.


I have supplied many links re the CDEP scheme previously. Do try to keep up. 

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Oh and he’s a bona fide Anti Semitic dhead who thinks the murder of 6 million Jews in the Jewish Holocaust was not much of an event to have demoralised the Jewish people.



No, I said the  holocaust didn't destroy the SELF-esteem of Jews who survived the holocaust.  Spot the difference with your ideologically blind above assertion.   

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In fact he’s on record for saying it didn’t demoralise the Jewish people. 😳😐😞


Correct, the self-esteem of survivors of the holocaust, and Jews who were not living in Europe during WW2,  remained as strong as ever.

Compared with the totally eradicated self-esteem - which is what I mean by "demoralization" -  of many blacks in Oz,  over the last 2 centuries. 

You have decided on your own meaning of "demoralization" ie unendurable suffering at the hands of an oppressor. 

You are confusing subject (ie, loss of self-esteem caused by socio - economic factors)  with object (ie unendurable suffering inflicted by an oppressor).   





This is the same guy who tries to pass off the CCP starving 50 million Chinese to death in an effort to distribute food evenly as a non event. And all the other progroms from the CCP and soviet dictatorships. The holocaust is just a drop in the bucket for them.


The individual sitting inside the NotSoGreat id has now been reported to a number of govt agencies along with screenshots of and links to his “disturbing material”.




Then why didn't it?  You are so wrong - it was Cargo Cult - come along and learn and be paid.... the moment the money stopped so did the participation.
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